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Old 12-08-2005, 05:09 AM
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Default The problem with Paul

I like a "Thread" like this to run once in a while to at least in some small way,counter the missteachings of these unstudied "Fundy" idiots that lead so many churches today,,,,teachings on marriage and divorce....When Pauls writings are considered outside of their historical perspective and the literal English meanings are only applied the resulting doctrine is lunacy.Paul wrote at a time in history when women were considered as "Chattel Property",,,,,and was writing in an advisory sence to keep womens lives out of danger,not because he agreed with the status-quo.Women that behaved outside of the paramaters of his instruction could be "Stoned" to death.Not that that would take place in every instance,but it was a possibility............Considering that turn to Mark 10,,,,and please !!!! forget what you have been taught to believe,,,,READ WHAT IT SAYS !!! ok the Pharisees that obviously consider women as chattel say that according to Moses(The Law) say they can write a bill of divorce to "Dismiss her",,,,THATS NOT WHAT MOSES WROTE !!!!! go read Deuteronomy 24 vs. 1-4 there are some conditions beyond their feeble answer.....Do you know why the first husband reffered to by Moses could not take her back ?????,,,,Because it was the custom of the time in pagon cultures around them to use women as payment for goods and services !!!!!! now read verse 7 Are you sweet ladys of this board starting to "GET IT !!!" Now back to Mark 10,,,,,So what does Christ reply ???? In verses 5-6 He replys "Because of the hardness of YOUR hearts,,,,,WHOS HEARTS ???? their hearts!!!!!He is talking here to a group of abusive men!!!!Then Christ quotes Genisis 23-24,,,,,We find here a literary from called a "Polysyndeton" employing the word and.It is used to call attention to Who is talking without changing the subject which is creation....Verse 23 begins "And ADAM said" WHO SAID ???? yes this is not Gods Word,,,,,,,,,,,,,IT IS ADAMS WEDDING VOW !!!! Are the lights coming on yet ladys????? And God conspicuosly does not respond.In Hebrew literary form and structure Gods silance is agreement Christ points out that "From the beginning God made them male & female,,,,,NOT AS CHATTEL PROPERTY !!!!!!...............Now,back to Mark,,,,fun eh ??? notice in verse 10 WHO is Christ talking to here ?????? These are men who are his followers no longer abusive to their wives (if they ever were) these men cherish and value their wives,,,,it is only then that His answer becomes more restrictive Ladys NOWHERE in Gods Word are you compelled to remain married to a man who doesn't love and cherish your spirit and your being,because if he doesn't do these things he has abandoned his vow and broken a sacred trust,and has become an enemy to his own substance,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,YOU
This is "Proper Teaching" weather the "Fundys" like it or not,,,,,,so tell them to ,,,,,,,as Kerry's wife told the reporter,,,,,Stick It !!!!
Love you guys,,,,,Jerry
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