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Honeybee12
03-30-2010, 06:56 PM
Wow. So I started reading the ACOA book. I'm already noticing how having alcoholic parents affects me to this day! I just recognized on characteristic tonight and I was totally blown away.

I have two Christian friends at work. One goes to a contemporary rock n roll church in a small city and the other goes to a pentecostal church in a poor area. I go to a church with artists and beatniks who love jazz, coffee and Jesus.

Anyway, both friends have suggested books, sermons, essays, music etc for me to listen to that they think I could identify with. I rarely ever make suggestions to them. I've often found myself feeling very cornered and uncomfortable when they've made these suggestions. I start to feel afraid and without choice. It definitely triggers some stuff.

I've had to express how I feel to the both of them and how my SA experience has really made me skittish. They've both backed off.. which is a relief.

It was the end of the day and the one who goes to the pentecostal church asked me if I was going to my small group tonight. I said no.. I've had a nasty cold and don't want to spread germs to my friends and their infants. So she said her church was having a deliverance service (inferring that I was invited).. I immediately froze and felt like a door slammed on the inside of me and all kids of flags were flying. Not that I think her church is toxic.. but there was a recent abuse issue that they seemed to want to sweep under the rug and handle between the families and not bring to the police. I strongly disagreed with how it was handled and don't want to go back because of it. I also feel the pastor and his wife are authoritative, and it seems as though they are feared and worshipped there. I don't want to make assumptions... but after being in a SA environment.. my radar is on full alert and anything weird is magnified.

Suffice to say, being a child of an alcoholic and being terrified of unknowingly getting sucked into a toxic church environment, I immediately knew in my soul that I definitely without a doubt did NOT want to go. That's valid enough in itself.

But the way I handled it was so typical of an ACOA. I told her "I'm not going to my small group tonight because I'm sick and have been for a while. I'll pray about going to you church and if I feel led to go then I'll go.. otherwise I'll just see you tomorrow. Thanks for inviting me though". When I asked what time it started, I was told 7pm.. it was 6pm at the time and I suggested that 7pm was pretty soon.. and it seemed as though she blew off how I felt about time constraints in a laughing way. Sometimes I can't tell if she's judging or being passive aggressive. I have often felt guilty for declining. Not sure if that's something she's causing or if it's my own guilt.

Is this a sticky web or am I super sensitive now that I'm discovering all of my own crap?

Anyone? Bueller? Anyone?

Honeybee12
03-30-2010, 07:00 PM
What I really wanted to say was just a simple "No thanks. I'm staying in tonight"..

1. Tough to make a decision right then and there (ACOA)..
2. Afraid to tell the truth (ACOA)
3. Feelings of guilt for not wanting to go and disappointing my friend (ACOA).
4. Worried that i made the wrong decision and that God really did want me to go and now He's mad at me (ACOA & SA)

Hope 98
03-30-2010, 07:17 PM
Yeah - I can identify with what you're talking about.

Maybe the thing we need to learn is to not worry about what someone is thinking. It's something worth understanding to help us deal with people, but maybe it really doesn't matter if the other person is being judgmental. That's really their issue.

Easy to say - I know. I'm trying to convince myself as I'm typing. There are some people I can shut down with a polite but firm "no" - like the person on the phone trying to hook me into premium cable channels - free for the first three months - but I know I'll forget to cancel, if I even remember to watch in the first place. I'm getting way better at that kind of thing.

It's harder with people you have to deal with regularly. At least you realize what you're doing and why. Now give yourself some grace.

Gayle
03-30-2010, 08:57 PM
What I really wanted to say was just a simple "No thanks. I'm staying in tonight"..

1. Tough to make a decision right then and there (ACOA)..
2. Afraid to tell the truth (ACOA)
3. Feelings of guilt for not wanting to go and disappointing my friend (ACOA).
4. Worried that i made the wrong decision and that God really did want me to go and now He's mad at me (ACOA & SA)

You're not alone. I didn't have alcoholic parents but all four of your points are (SA/A) for me.

and......

I immediately knew in my soul that I definitely without a doubt did NOT want to go. That's valid enough in itself.

You are so right on here. :)

riverdove
03-30-2010, 10:08 PM
Hi Honeybee,

I'm so glad you're now reading about ACOA. After exiting from my SA group, I also found out that my dysfunctional family background might have enabled the abuse in the SA church. What you're describiing here is all too familiar to me. They call that walking on egg shell. It's something that children of dysfunctional families learn very well early in life--to not rock the boat because we so desire the significant relationships we never had. For me, it was my abusive alcoholic dad. We're so afraid of being abandoned, but yet time and time again the relationships we get into are with people who will take advantage of our people pleasing nature.

You did the right thing to choose what you wanted. I find that the more I don't have to explain to the people around when I say no, the more I'm learning to make choices óf my own and feeling good about myself. If they don't like my decisions, then that is their business and not mine.

I have had to deal with the codependent relationship in my family of origin and it is something very painful that I have been struggling to grow out of. There are people around me who will always feel, think and act on my behalf and a healthy relationship simply cannot be built around this kind of lunacy, so I can totally relate to what you're sharing here.

Jerry
03-30-2010, 10:30 PM
What I really wanted to say was just a simple "No thanks. I'm staying in tonight"..

1. Tough to make a decision right then and there (ACOA)..
2. Afraid to tell the truth (ACOA)
3. Feelings of guilt for not wanting to go and disappointing my friend (ACOA).
4. Worried that i made the wrong decision and that God really did want me to go and now He's mad at me (ACOA & SA)

Dear Honeybee,,,,
I think you handled it very well,and as time goes on you will get even better.....Sweetie,,,, when you get those "Gut Feelings" ,pay attention,,,,,they are Gods Gift to keep you safe.....Read the "C.S.Lewis" quote pined to the top of the abuse board,,,,,,it will serve you well ;)

Love Jerry

Reg
03-31-2010, 08:36 AM
Honeybee,

Yeah, I know what's it's like to just say NO to people without feeling guilty. Hard to do. A book that helped me a lot in this area was "Boundaries".

I like this quote by Elbert Hubbard :
Never explain - your friends do not need it and your enemies will not believe you anyway.

broken_hearted_sheep
03-31-2010, 12:48 PM
It takes time to learn the simple, "Thanks for the invite but I won't be able to attend." I still struggle at times, but each time I get an invite somewhere, if something twinges inside, I listen and make a conscious choice to not overexplain myself. Congratulations on taking a stand and setting a boundary.

Honeybee12
03-31-2010, 08:35 PM
Thanks for all the encouragement everyone. I guess going with that 'gut feeling' is something I've ignored for a long time because I'd listen to everyone else. I understand the need for Godly counsel.. but going to others before Him all of the time for everything isn't the way to go.

Being true to myself and what God speaks to me is the most important thing.. Hard to do.. but possible!