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ex-shep
03-22-2010, 11:57 PM
I need to get this out my system before I permanently loose my faculties. I doubt I will, but it feels like it. I have enough Al Anon in me to know when it is time to detach. I did have to pull the plug on the situation with Bambi. The withdrawal came fast and hard, but it beats denial hands down. I still need to vent and process some loose ends in this bizarre caper.


For those new to forum, Bambi Paderewski, was a former co worker who gave given Shelly and I fits. She was extremely terrified of me to the point of disruption. My attempts to report the incident backfired with my former employer accusing me of stalking. The nuttiness continued on after I left the former employer for several months on “Buddy.net”. I was getting suggestions to be a buddy and even a buddy request. Shelly was having the same on her buddy page. Bambi would take her buddy page down and bring it back up again. We were not sure what to make of it. Finally it occurred to me that her fiancé was not going appreciate the on line infidelity. That comment to Bambi finally stopped her cold and she disappeared permanently from the Buddy Pages.

Not being to get to our church because of weather, work schedules, and the cost of travel, and the fact that finances were tight because a cut in hours and Shelly not able to find work, we looked for a close by church. We were invited to both an AA meeting and a church both on Sunday mornings fifteen miles away. What we did not count on was being in the home parish of Stanislaus Kubelík and his family. Stan is Bambi’s fiancé. The church is large enough that we simply do not run into each other. Bambi came in one service and left. We were too busy enjoying the music and liturgy to notice. I made a mental note of it and continued worshipping. It was ancient history by the time of the recessional hymn.

What is disturbing is the cult relationship Bambi has with her fiancé. We had a brief friendship with Stan’s sister Magdalena whose life had literally crashed about her. Her professional career was dashed by illness, job loss and homelessness. To add to her situation was two cult situations. Her ex husband who has her daughter is a member of a well known door knocking group. That has been a strain. Her brother has been verbally abusive and shaming. It is her fault that she is in the predicament she is in. Stan has been known to fly into a rage to anyone who gets in his way. Stan is overly protective of his sister and has no problem taking her verbally apart limb by limb. I was horrified that she received an email calling her stupid. Shelly and I did have an opportunity to be friends with Magdalena. She appreciated the outreach. Things were fine until Stan got wind of it, then the friendship was over. I cannot help but see the cult dynamic is the only reality is the group itself, with Stan being the group.

One day last spring when I was still at my former employer, I got from my desk to stretch. I saw Bambi with a big mark on her face. I knew somebody had hit her. Bambi saw me. She knew that I saw the bruise on her left cheek. Tears started to well up in her. She ran into the Ladies Room. Talking to Maggie and looking back on it, I was starting to wonder who hit Bambi. The question which then arose was would Bambi and her children be safe around Stan. Maggie expressed reservations about the wedding. The upcoming event has been an incredible strain for her. I was never able to get a fix on just why.

An inner city pastor once made the comment that in the suburbs, sin happens behind closed doors. The Paderewski family has been rocked by years of real estate fraud culminating in prison time. The duplicity and deciet has been heart breaking. The Kubelík clan is determined to keep a front about things and keep things covered up. Maggie and Bambi could be injured pawns for life outside of divine intervention.

Obviously there is nothing I can do. Anything I do will only added water to a gasoline fire. I had to pull the plug on this. The post Paderewski world is weird and eerily quiet. I feel like I had walked out my groups all over again. The potential cult dynamics are too close to home for my taste. Life will go on. I will recover from this. I must move on. My recovery and serenity depends on it. Still the thing which I am the most powerless is the impression that if Bambi goes down the aisle, I and many St Charles College alums may also end up attending her funeral.

ex-shep
03-30-2010, 07:44 AM
Shelly and I were at Hohlman Library at St Charles College studying a Master Thesis on Forgiveness. I looked up at my wife and mused that sometimes the line between godly compassion and self absorbed obsession is razor thin. It is a tricky fine line.

riverdove
03-30-2010, 10:09 AM
Shelly and I were at Hohlman Library at St Charles College studying a Master Thesis on Forgiveness. I looked up at my wife and mused that sometimes the line between godly compassion and self absorbed obsession is razor thin. It is a tricky fine line.Good point. Further down in recovery lane, I find that true to my own situation as well. Next latte on me.

ex-shep
03-30-2010, 10:25 PM
There was a bright spot. There is a couple who graduated from St Charles who I love for the world. One is DJ who is walking 60's encyclopedia. His girl friend is the sweetest gal around. Shelly and I think the world. I occassionally get notes of encouragement from Veronica.

I also spend hours reading in Hohlman Library. There are stacks of old Religious Studies Master Theses which are some profound reads and a bible study in themselves. Shelly and I ended up supporting the school finanicially. Funny how all a spat spun off all these coupons.

ex-shep
05-03-2010, 01:06 PM
This keeps coming back like a bad bowl of chili. I could really covet advice and prayers for wisdom. I came home from work last Friday. I opened up the Buddy.net page to have Bambi's page flash on the screen. I have confronted her on this before. This keeps creeping about every 3 months. I have been accused of stalking, but there is something wrong with this picture. This has been going on for nearly two years off and on.

We are at the stage where we may have to go the pastor of the church we attend. Bambi's fiance's family are members of the same church. We are at a loss of what to do. Of course the wise and proper thing to do is have nothing to do with this gal. We are accepting that there are some who do not want to have anything to do with us. We are at the acceptance point of things and are willing to move on. Somehow this issue keeps coming back.

If I am denial, I will gladly accept the proverbial 2x4. Something has to be done. We are just not too sure what.

Spiny Norman
05-05-2010, 01:42 AM
This keeps coming back like a bad bowl of chili. I could really covet advice and prayers for wisdom. I came home from work last Friday. I opened up the Buddy.net page to have Bambi's page flash on the screen. I have confronted her on this before. This keeps creeping about every 3 months. I have been accused of stalking, but there is something wrong with this picture. This has been going on for nearly two years off and on.

Hi ex-shep,
What's the story with "buddy.net"? Are you talking about a website? What's the URL (isn't www.buddy.net (http://www.buddy.net) as best I can see)?
Spiny.

ex-shep
05-06-2010, 11:16 AM
Hi ex-shep,
What's the story with "buddy.net"? Are you talking about a website? What's the URL (isn't www.buddy.net (http://www.buddy.net) as best I can see)?
Spiny.

Oh I was trying to use a psuedonym. So much for Dragnet. :D

ex-shep
05-06-2010, 10:12 PM
Oh I was trying to use a psuedonym. So much for Dragnet. :D

Obviously to keep anonymity, I change names and places.

After getting a PM from a member, I came to realize that Bambi is a closet drama addict. It was not that I was following her, it was her acting out at work and then online. It was a loud stereo of codependency. I just smiled in spite of her chaos.

I have managed to watch the behavoir with some bemused detachment and gratitude for my recovery. As one brother in recovery puts it, "It is a great game board made of the finest wood. The pieces are of the most intricate carving -- but, no thanks I do not feel like playing."

ex-shep
05-10-2010, 08:55 PM
We will need your prayer for now. After much counsel and prayer, we have decided to report Bambi to pastoral counsel of her Parish. Her acting out behavoirs have come the point where she is threatening our safety as well as her own. If her fiance were to find out, he may fly into a rage and go after Bambi or us. I spoke with a women who is very familiar with Catholic polity. She assured me that, especially with a couple in premarital counseling, that this issue will be taken seriously and investigated. Her advice was to email the pastor and leave it in the hands of the pastoral counsel.

It was not an easy decision to make, but we needed the counsel and wisdom of the church.

ex-shep
05-16-2010, 02:18 PM
We will need your prayer for now. After much counsel and prayer, we have decided to report Bambi to pastoral counsel of her Parish. Her acting out behavoirs have come the point where she is threatening our safety as well as her own. If her fiance were to find out, he may fly into a rage and go after Bambi or us. I spoke with a women who is very familiar with Catholic polity. She assured me that, especially with a couple in premarital counseling, that this issue will be taken seriously and investigated. Her advice was to email the pastor and leave it in the hands of the pastoral counsel.

It was not an easy decision to make, but we needed the counsel and wisdom of the church.

I talked briefly to Fr S. after Mass. He was greatly shaken. I do not think the church appreciated the news. It is hard to process when such allegations come to pass.

ex-shep
07-17-2010, 10:07 PM
Been a couple of months since the dust finally settled. Bambi tried to press charges for stalking. The charges were dropped when her story did not check out. Her family apparently read her the riot act. Curiously the blog from her sister in law was edited. She was then forced to take her blog down. Shelly and I really feel bad for Maggie. She is apparently getting the brunt of abuse from all this. With all that she has on her plate she does not need this.

We have not heard from her since the end of May. We are enjoying the peace and quiet. We are also left with some gutted relationships. I am not sure if we can salvage things with the parish or not. Temporarily I am banned from St Charles College pending investigation. Since I do not live in the area, that issue has fallen off the bottom of the priority list. I am sure after time, somebody can make a call to resolve the issue.

I have had trouble finding a good church after all this. The church we formerly went is not happy with the handling of the issue. It feels our bridges are burned there. The best we can do is to AA meetings and listen to teaching programmes on Christian radio. Not sure where to go from here.

ex-shep
08-25-2010, 01:59 AM
Been a couple of months since the dust finally settled. Bambi tried to press charges for stalking. The charges were dropped when her story did not check out. Her family apparently read her the riot act. Curiously the blog from her sister in law was edited. She was then forced to take her blog down. Shelly and I really feel bad for Maggie. She is apparently getting the brunt of abuse from all this. With all that she has on her plate she does not need this.



I cannot help but go through all my cultic studies material that the only reality of is Stan, his folks, and Bambi. Maggie did end up getting outed after all for her bringing Stan's abuse to light. Fortunately they have moved three counties and 70 miles away. I love my anonymity, but if she ever stumbled on the page. I am sure I would stoke up the virtual coffee pot. It seems to be the right thing to do.

With my convoluted work schedule, Shelly and I found a warm little Parish on Saturdays to call home. They are glad to have us. I also help out on the two AA meetings in the basement. I usually stay up and watch the trains go by. Not bad a for a small town.

ex-shep
08-29-2010, 09:06 PM
I cannot help but go through all my cultic studies material that the only reality of is Stan, his folks, and Bambi. Maggie did end up getting outed after all for her bringing Stan's abuse to light. Fortunately they have moved three counties and 70 miles away. I love my anonymity, but if she ever stumbled on the page. I am sure I would stoke up the virtual coffee pot. It seems to be the right thing to do.

With my convoluted work schedule, Shelly and I found a warm little Parish on Saturdays to call home. They are glad to have us. I also help out on the two AA meetings in the basement. I usually stay up and watch the trains go by. Not bad a for a small town.

The reason for the invite is a family member is in a well known closed group. Did help out on the Parish picnic. It was hot, sweaty, and exhilarating.

angelababy
11-07-2010, 07:26 PM
Further down in recovery lane, I find that true to my own situation as well.