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03-06-2010, 12:12 PM
Finally got the time to type up my notes on this book our Senior Pastor - Dr. Tom Finch wrote. It sounds like I can talk to him about SA. I plan to discuss what I've written here with him.
As a result of his wife's death he wrote a book, "Unmapped Darkness: Finding God's Path Through Suffering".
http://www.christianbook.com/unmapped-darkness-finding-path-through-suffering/tom-finch/9780802467508/pd/67508?event=1010SBF|1198050|1010
Here is the link about Our New Pastor.
http://www.christianrecovery.com/vb/showthread.php?t=8761&highlight=leading+pastor&page=2
UNMAPPED DARKNESS - Dr. Tom Finch
Pg 15...fixated on physical suffering, spiritual or internal suffering has been a dominant issue from the
beginning of time. In fact, it seems that suffering on the spiritual level is the most painful & devastating
because it affects our view of physical suffering as well.
....not all pain has it’s roots in the sin of an individual.
Pg 17 When tragedy strikes, people experience a variety of emotions. In the newness of deep suffering, tears
can come quickly & irresistibly. But following the initial outpouring of emotion, a felling of numbness is
natural. This stage of confusing shock can last varying lengths of time. (For SA victims it can be even 10 years +). Heartfelt communication with friends or family or God may come to a standstill because of what had taken place.
Pg 18 Then there are God questions:
- How can a good God allow this to happen?
- Where is God?
-Does He even exist?
- Is He in control?
-What is He like?
-Can God help me?
(Let me add one more: How could He allow this minister/church leader abuse me in His name?)
Pg 19 My faith has been tested again & again as I wrestled with the hard questions. Sometimes there have been
fellow travelers with whom I could discuss my questions, but it is different for one who hasn’t walked this
path too effectively communicate with one who is on the journey.
Pg 24 No person can say to another, “Hey you’re really not suffering.” “You’ve got it made, compared to so
& so”. (Or something more familiar to me like, “Get Over It” “Move On”).
Minimizing or trying to explain away the painful experiences of others is contrary to any kind of genuine
caring or compassion & violates the integrity of that suffering.
Pg 26 When faced with rejection, there is a crisis within, a feeling of loss, & a degree of personal suffering....
Others have faced horrendous personal suffering because they have been victims of rape & various forms of
abuse. (With SA it is like a rape of our intellectual & emotional self. It is a spiritual form of a violation of our
deepest trust.) Self-worth (& our trust muscles) can be seriously harmed or even destroyed by these things.
3. Crisis of Personal Relationships
Relational pain is different from physical pain. A fractured arm can heal, but a shattered relationship has a
great impact on us for a long time....
A broken heart, shattered by betrayal, feels some of the deepest suffering & is not easily healed. (= ME!)
4. Crisis of Conflict
....As emotions become involved, the feelings become tense & antagonisms develop that can lead to bitterness.
Whether it is among religious people on their gatherings...(or church leaders) the wounds received in this type
of combat are deep & real. Slander campaigns & hidden agendas may develop to defeat a presumed adversary.
(What SA leaders do!) Where matters of principle are involved, antagonists will often go after personal
reputation in order silence the individual. (=Slander) Being a victim of character assassination or vicious
rumours & gossip can bring one to the brink of identity crisis & despair.
[This is what happens to an individual of SA., especially when their minister or church leader is the one
responsible for the slander. It is Spiritual Abuse!]
Pg 30... I could relate to them & minister to them. I could simple say with depth of feeling,
“I understand”.
Pg 35 Well meaning people often give feel-good answers to the hard questions of life... Such pat answers make
the inquirer think, “This person doesn’t really care or understand. The think they have to say something.”
Religious people especially feel they are expected to have answers, so they tend to offer pious sounding
contested cliches, which hold little value in the face of pain.
Suffering reduces one’s tolerance for superficiality.
Pg 36 Jesus linked hypocrisy with superficiality. When shallowness infects religion, the effects can be
devastating to those who suffer.....
Indeed, when our icons (or anything we cling to for security. E.I.. God represented by His ministers?) are
broken by reality - (like they are really not ministers of Jesus Christ) our security systems are fractured (Like
our broken trust muscles) We are plunged into an inward suffering that is in many ways inexplicable &
even if communicated, would be misunderstood by many.
[This is one of the major difficulties people who have suffered spiritual abuse have. Not being completely
understood. Most of the time they keep silent realizing they will be misunderstood.]
It is a continuous questioning & forming & re-forming of our beliefs - even the shattering of them - that our
understanding begins to contain substance rather than trite, pat answers.
Pg 113... At first there is the trauma due to the shock of the actual event or information that caused the
suffering. One who encounters suffering will at first be rather numb, anesthetized. To all that is going on
around him or her. Shock is a blessing, giving you a chance to absorb what is happening. Denial is sometimes a
part of shock. After awhile, anger might surface, as well as such things as inescapable fears, anxiety, extreme
loneliness & powerlessness. It is important at these times to acknowledge the reality of these feelings.
[This is one of the main things people who have suffered from SA have difficulty doing. They come from a
system that has taught them to deny their human emotions & feelings. They have been trained to believe it is
wrong to succumb to their weak feelings of emotion. Consequently, they have lost their identities & lived
clone-like pseudo lives]
Pg 116... War veterans who have experienced combat can experience flashbacks (PTSD or Triggers) when
loud noise or a certain image takes them back to the battlefield.
[PTSD is something a lot of SA survivors experience. Since the Bible itself was used as a tool to manipulate &
control them. Quoting scripture can cause triggers to go off. The Bible itself is held in suspicion. Many cannot
even real it again for years. Even prayers can be difficult. There are many things in a church environment that
can cause flashbacks for SA survivors. Many do not attend church services as a result.]
Pg 117... If a person is spiritually disabled, the influence & testimony of salvation & the resurrection life of
redemption through Christ diminishes.
[In the early stages of recovery, it can be years, this is the condition of SA survivors. It may take several years
to recover to the point of using their experiences in a positive way. Once a deep spiritual trust has been broken
on several fronts, it takes a long time for that trust to be regained.]
Pg 118... Openness frees people to share their sufferings & leads to catharsis. Sufferers, then, become wounded
healers who share the grace of God.
As a result of his wife's death he wrote a book, "Unmapped Darkness: Finding God's Path Through Suffering".
http://www.christianbook.com/unmapped-darkness-finding-path-through-suffering/tom-finch/9780802467508/pd/67508?event=1010SBF|1198050|1010
Here is the link about Our New Pastor.
http://www.christianrecovery.com/vb/showthread.php?t=8761&highlight=leading+pastor&page=2
UNMAPPED DARKNESS - Dr. Tom Finch
Pg 15...fixated on physical suffering, spiritual or internal suffering has been a dominant issue from the
beginning of time. In fact, it seems that suffering on the spiritual level is the most painful & devastating
because it affects our view of physical suffering as well.
....not all pain has it’s roots in the sin of an individual.
Pg 17 When tragedy strikes, people experience a variety of emotions. In the newness of deep suffering, tears
can come quickly & irresistibly. But following the initial outpouring of emotion, a felling of numbness is
natural. This stage of confusing shock can last varying lengths of time. (For SA victims it can be even 10 years +). Heartfelt communication with friends or family or God may come to a standstill because of what had taken place.
Pg 18 Then there are God questions:
- How can a good God allow this to happen?
- Where is God?
-Does He even exist?
- Is He in control?
-What is He like?
-Can God help me?
(Let me add one more: How could He allow this minister/church leader abuse me in His name?)
Pg 19 My faith has been tested again & again as I wrestled with the hard questions. Sometimes there have been
fellow travelers with whom I could discuss my questions, but it is different for one who hasn’t walked this
path too effectively communicate with one who is on the journey.
Pg 24 No person can say to another, “Hey you’re really not suffering.” “You’ve got it made, compared to so
& so”. (Or something more familiar to me like, “Get Over It” “Move On”).
Minimizing or trying to explain away the painful experiences of others is contrary to any kind of genuine
caring or compassion & violates the integrity of that suffering.
Pg 26 When faced with rejection, there is a crisis within, a feeling of loss, & a degree of personal suffering....
Others have faced horrendous personal suffering because they have been victims of rape & various forms of
abuse. (With SA it is like a rape of our intellectual & emotional self. It is a spiritual form of a violation of our
deepest trust.) Self-worth (& our trust muscles) can be seriously harmed or even destroyed by these things.
3. Crisis of Personal Relationships
Relational pain is different from physical pain. A fractured arm can heal, but a shattered relationship has a
great impact on us for a long time....
A broken heart, shattered by betrayal, feels some of the deepest suffering & is not easily healed. (= ME!)
4. Crisis of Conflict
....As emotions become involved, the feelings become tense & antagonisms develop that can lead to bitterness.
Whether it is among religious people on their gatherings...(or church leaders) the wounds received in this type
of combat are deep & real. Slander campaigns & hidden agendas may develop to defeat a presumed adversary.
(What SA leaders do!) Where matters of principle are involved, antagonists will often go after personal
reputation in order silence the individual. (=Slander) Being a victim of character assassination or vicious
rumours & gossip can bring one to the brink of identity crisis & despair.
[This is what happens to an individual of SA., especially when their minister or church leader is the one
responsible for the slander. It is Spiritual Abuse!]
Pg 30... I could relate to them & minister to them. I could simple say with depth of feeling,
“I understand”.
Pg 35 Well meaning people often give feel-good answers to the hard questions of life... Such pat answers make
the inquirer think, “This person doesn’t really care or understand. The think they have to say something.”
Religious people especially feel they are expected to have answers, so they tend to offer pious sounding
contested cliches, which hold little value in the face of pain.
Suffering reduces one’s tolerance for superficiality.
Pg 36 Jesus linked hypocrisy with superficiality. When shallowness infects religion, the effects can be
devastating to those who suffer.....
Indeed, when our icons (or anything we cling to for security. E.I.. God represented by His ministers?) are
broken by reality - (like they are really not ministers of Jesus Christ) our security systems are fractured (Like
our broken trust muscles) We are plunged into an inward suffering that is in many ways inexplicable &
even if communicated, would be misunderstood by many.
[This is one of the major difficulties people who have suffered spiritual abuse have. Not being completely
understood. Most of the time they keep silent realizing they will be misunderstood.]
It is a continuous questioning & forming & re-forming of our beliefs - even the shattering of them - that our
understanding begins to contain substance rather than trite, pat answers.
Pg 113... At first there is the trauma due to the shock of the actual event or information that caused the
suffering. One who encounters suffering will at first be rather numb, anesthetized. To all that is going on
around him or her. Shock is a blessing, giving you a chance to absorb what is happening. Denial is sometimes a
part of shock. After awhile, anger might surface, as well as such things as inescapable fears, anxiety, extreme
loneliness & powerlessness. It is important at these times to acknowledge the reality of these feelings.
[This is one of the main things people who have suffered from SA have difficulty doing. They come from a
system that has taught them to deny their human emotions & feelings. They have been trained to believe it is
wrong to succumb to their weak feelings of emotion. Consequently, they have lost their identities & lived
clone-like pseudo lives]
Pg 116... War veterans who have experienced combat can experience flashbacks (PTSD or Triggers) when
loud noise or a certain image takes them back to the battlefield.
[PTSD is something a lot of SA survivors experience. Since the Bible itself was used as a tool to manipulate &
control them. Quoting scripture can cause triggers to go off. The Bible itself is held in suspicion. Many cannot
even real it again for years. Even prayers can be difficult. There are many things in a church environment that
can cause flashbacks for SA survivors. Many do not attend church services as a result.]
Pg 117... If a person is spiritually disabled, the influence & testimony of salvation & the resurrection life of
redemption through Christ diminishes.
[In the early stages of recovery, it can be years, this is the condition of SA survivors. It may take several years
to recover to the point of using their experiences in a positive way. Once a deep spiritual trust has been broken
on several fronts, it takes a long time for that trust to be regained.]
Pg 118... Openness frees people to share their sufferings & leads to catharsis. Sufferers, then, become wounded
healers who share the grace of God.