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Honeybee12
01-22-2010, 09:42 AM
So about three months ago, I started seeing many of the issues and dysfunctions of my life and started to face them.

In this time I started searching for answers of why I went to the SA church, why I stayed, why I left, and why it continues to haunt me.

This past week, I've been searching and praying and needing guidance from God. I'm really not sure where to go in my new relationship. I sometimes feel like it's meant to be, I sometimes feel like it's doomed. He's not on the same page as me spiritually. However he does believe. I've been told that sometimes it's just not enough to believe.. but to surrender and to follow. That being said.. many other things have opened up to cause me to doubt.

During this week, I have had the old nagging feeling of being called back to the church by God. It's so confusing. I read somewhere that this kind of doubt can actually be healthy. I never thought that this could be a good thing, you know.. doubt. Every time I experience this doubt, I resist and fight it and pray that it would go away. This process has led me nowhere. I'm now wondering if there is some new way to look at it. Perhaps this is where I am to remind myself of who God is, and who God isn't.

Has anyone else experienced this?

It's like when I was going there, I was so vulnerable and impressionable, like a piece of clay.. and now I need to be reshaped. But looking to God and anticipating his reshaping is scary and unknown. Perhaps I revert back to thinking I should go there again because at least it's predictable.

The church is known to kick people out. The church is known to be exclusive in the community and really only has relations with churches in the same denomination, no relations with any of the local churches. The church banned a four year old boy from the nursery for pulling his pants down around other little kids (like most 4 year olds) and labeled him a pervert (leaving his mother wounded and heartbroken). People from the SA church all consider themselves to be part of the one true church. People from the church have been known to bash other churches and say 'they don't teach the word right'. I was encouraged to go to the Wednesday morning women's bible study, Thursday mid-week study and Sunday morning service. If I didn't show up, I felt like I was totally disappointing God. I also felt like it was my duty to attend service, and if I didn't, everyone would know and I'd feel just creepy the next service I attended. The pastor's wife told me once that I could use more discipline. The pastor's wife had me work on some graphics from home on the same day I returned home from the hospital for a major infection, and didn't really seem to think it was a big deal. I told the pastor's wife about a personal medical condition that I would need surgery for (I thought in confidence) and then immediately told another person all of my health info, right in front of me. One person from the SA church, spoke at an 'outside' womens group who, at the end of their talk advised everyone to go to their church because it's the only true church. The SA church doesn't believe in mental health issues, medication.. just the word, prayer and worship is all anyone needs, and if they don't get healed.. it's the fault of the one who is suffering.

Perhaps I just needed to write this all out to remind myself of why I left. Though, the church I attend now IS healthy.. but sometimes I feel like it's so loose and without the rigid structure that I did appreciate in the SA system, but that structure was all about works.. not grace. Seems I haven't found my middle ground.

Jerry
01-22-2010, 10:30 AM
Dear Honeybee,,,,
Anyone who would label a 4 year old "Pervert" does not deserve to breath the same air we do.They are human "Garbage" :mad: Don't even bid them "Gods Speed" ........Well thats my rant about that,,,,,do have a nice day ;) I truly hope this post helps you amputate those people from your life.....
Love Jerry

hornblower
01-22-2010, 04:58 PM
We all always have doubts about everything but one thing I have come to know above everything else. God is not determined by what people say about Him. God is love! Thats not me saying that Im only repeating what the bible says. I was so blinded, so hurt, so down and out, by the churches I had been in, and the hard way of living they seemed to impose on me and others, I could barely believe my eyes when I read those words. I believe God said them to me, and then when I read them I was so lost I said back to Him "what is love?"
"HB" of course he said my real name, He said to me, "Do you not know what love is?" I remembered back to the times I felt love happen to me in my heart. The times my Daddy used to talk to me. A friend who hugged me. The first time I met Jesus was the greatest time of love Ive ever known. I realised if I, at my age, dont know what love is, then I must have not lived a life at all.
Im still searching this out because love is not simple thats for sure. But we all know what it is when it happens to us. Love is not control.
If you lack structrure its because like me, you probably dont have it inside of you. I know I dont have it inside of me.
I had no discipline growing up and so I think this is deeply felt on the inside of me. Its like walking on a bridge with no rails. It causes lots of anxiety.
I like hard preaching.....words that kind of make most people feel bad but somehow I seem to enjoy it. I think this drew me into those churches.

I have been taking some hard looks at myself, like you, and thats good but lets dont forget to have fun. God does love us and wants us to know it deeply. Love gives us joy. Joy, whats that? Joy is strength believe it or not thats the word again. Thats the stuff we never hear in church. You know why we dont hear it? Its so easy. Its so easy just to be His child and let Him take the blame for us and let Him love on us. Yep. Please stay where you are free. In the end I can assure you, You are in the right place.

kodee
01-22-2010, 10:11 PM
I think your doubts are valid and I'm with every one else that you should run away, thier being exclusive is a big red flag! I now what your talking about, I have seen it before myself and avoid churches like that. Keep your head up! as fopr your relationship, we all have different expressions of our relationship with Christ, If he loves Jesus then thats all that matters

Reg
01-23-2010, 09:06 AM
Honeybee12,

The church you left sure sounds like the one I left (WCG)

riverdove
01-25-2010, 09:00 AM
Honeybee, the same thoughts occurred to me--the back and forth thinking should I, or should'nt I go back. In fact, I actually went back one time. That was a huge mistake. More things happened. I should have just left the first time. The second time that I left, it made it all so clear to me that the place was NOT a place to linger around any more. They say in a dysfunctional relationship, unless the other party also seeks help and counsel, there's no way the relationship can be safe to return to it. I apply it to the church dysfunctional situation also. I hear you, hon, take care.