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standing still
01-26-2005, 12:59 PM
Hey, folks. I just realized after re-reading my post that I am no longer going in circles, nor am I standing still. I am gaining a freedom through my expressions here that is absolutely wonderful regaining a sense of cleansing that is joyful!

It's giving me true empowerment for christ centered living. HALLELUJAH! Praise be to God for his liberating power. He came to set the captives free! He is our deliverer! He is our King! He is our redemption! He is the Alpha and the Omega! He is the redeemer! He is the One who can take ashes and turn them into beauty! He is the One who is our everlasting petioner to Our Father in heaven!

HE WILL DELIVER YOU! EVERYBODY! BEGIN RIGHT NOW TO PRAISE HIM! PRAISE HIM RIGHT NOW! CRY OUT TO HIM WITH YOUR SORROW! CRY OUT TO HIM WITH YOUR PAIN! CRY OUT TO HIM WITH YOUR NEEDS! CRY OUT TO HIM WITH YOUR DESIRES! CRY OUT TO HIM FOR COURAGE! CRY OUT TO HIM AND PRAISE HIM RIGHT NOW!!!

PRAISE BE TO GOD! THE LOVER OF OUR SOULS! PRAISE YOU - JESUS! PRAISE YOU- JESUS!!!

Jerry
01-26-2005, 01:05 PM
Hey, folks. I just realized after re-reading my post that I am no longer going in circles, nor am I standing still. I am gaining a freedom through my expressions here that is absolutely wonderful regaining a sense of cleansing that is joyful!

It's giving me true empowerment for christ centered living. HALLELUJAH! Praise be to God for his liberating power. He came to set the captives free! He is our deliverer! He is our King! He is our redemption! He is the Alpha and the Omega! He is the redeemer! He is the One who can take ashes and turn them into beauty! He is the One who is our everlasting petioner to Our Father in heaven!

HE WILL DELIVER YOU! EVERYBODY! BEGIN RIGHT NOW TO PRAISE HIM! PRAISE HIM RIGHT NOW! CRY OUT TO HIM WITH YOUR SORROW! CRY OUT TO HIM WITH YOUR PAIN! CRY OUT TO HIM WITH YOUR NEEDS! CRY OUT TO HIM WITH YOUR DESIRES! CRY OUT TO HIM FOR COURAGE! CRY OUT TO HIM AND PRAISE HIM RIGHT NOW!!!

PRAISE BE TO GOD! THE LOVER OF OUR SOULS! PRAISE YOU - JESUS! PRAISE YOU- JESUS!!!
Dear Standing Still,,,,
This is fine,,,,,It's wonderful to get excited,,,,, ;) But don't "Wig Out" on us either :D
Love Jerry

standing still
01-26-2005, 01:16 PM
Wig Out! No Way, Jerry! Those that have suffered and hurt and are brave enough to be vulnerable, and courageous enough battle on are not "wigger outers". The battle will always be there. Praising God is the first door to freedom. That doesn't mean we don't need brothers and sisters to cry with and share our pain with. It doesn't mean our pain isn't real. It doesn't mean we don't need help. It means that when you can't seem to be able to do naything eslse, then start praising God on your way to getting the help you need through the counsel of others suffering from the same, and God who is faithful and just to hear our paryers and our cries.

I believe if you visit my site, (I'll try to get it back up by Monday at the latest), you will find a ministry that will put us, and those like us in tremendous position to empower others into freedom in Christ.

Hey, Jerry, You just don't wig out on me!

Jerry
01-26-2005, 01:24 PM
Ok,,,,,,,,,,,,,,We'll see
Love Jerry

Willow
01-26-2005, 07:57 PM
Chill Bro... just talk to us normal, OK?

Voyager
01-27-2005, 12:07 AM
Been there, done that. Sweeping all of your issues under the rug and shouting hallelujiah is only a temporary fix for a long-term problem.

:(

Patty
01-27-2005, 04:36 AM
Wow, at first I was almost sucked into the rhetoric myself. Then, I recalled how I would build and build and search and search until I got a "revelation, a "deliverance" or a "breakthrough" and I would coast on that high for a couple of days until I crashed. Then I would start the process over and over. I would even read the Bible that way, looking for that one special verse that would "speak to my heart" and deliver me from my particular trouble of the moment. I would listen to worship music waiting for that crescendo that would bring me emotional relief. Maybe thats why I was drawn to charismatic praise and worship churches.
I still have a friend who regularly calls me with her latest "revelations." It is hard for me to get excited for her anymore, because I know whe will soon come tumbling down. She has no coping skills for the "down times" except for waiting for the next spiritual high.
So, while never to take away from praising the Lord, it is definitely a good thing, I can certainly see where the caution lies in the posters response to the "hallelujah" moment. Good discussion.

Janice
01-27-2005, 07:04 AM
Why is it that people like this ALWAYS have a web site? Hmm... seems to me the site must not be getting enough "hits" so one must grasp at straws? Just my opinion.

ex-shep
01-27-2005, 12:28 PM
Wow, at first I was almost sucked into the rhetoric myself. Then, I recalled how I would build and build and search and search until I got a "revelation, a "deliverance" or a "breakthrough" and I would coast on that high for a couple of days until I crashed. Then I would start the process over and over. I would even read the Bible that way, looking for that one special verse that would "speak to my heart" and deliver me from my particular trouble of the moment. I would listen to worship music waiting for that crescendo that would bring me emotional relief. Maybe thats why I was drawn to charismatic praise and worship churches.
I still have a friend who regularly calls me with her latest "revelations." It is hard for me to get excited for her anymore, because I know whe will soon come tumbling down. She has no coping skills for the "down times" except for waiting for the next spiritual high.
So, while never to take away from praising the Lord, it is definitely a good thing, I can certainly see where the caution lies in the posters response to the "hallelujah" moment. Good discussion.

Gold stars for both you and voyager. Rhetoric sounds like loaded language to me. The jargon can be comforting for a moment. So does a stiff drink-- but this recovering alcoholic knows how that far is going to get him.

I can't stand the religious highs. Lusting after the big fix as Sexaholics Anonymous puts it. I deliberately underreact to the music at both churches. Whether it the chorus singing a John Rutter piece with the Cassavant organ doing a perennial barn burner or the worship team at Tammy's church affiliate in North Texas jazzing it up, I have to keep a modicum of detatchment, let I disassociate and go off into cultic orbit.

I read the bible in a six month cycle. For me it stays fresher that way. I read the days passage in context. If something jumps off the page, great. If not, it is still a veritable "lamp unto my feet".

I have found it better to wait and see what unfolds. Anybody who has followed my posts has known it has been quite tumultuous in the Lone Star State. While I am truly grateful for what has transpired, I do not go looking for the next crisis to get a high. Rather I purchased a fifty gallon drum of discernment, load it on a tractor trailer full of humility, let the Lord do the driving. I have said to my wife, from an airline perspective, "There just days, one has to sit down, buckle up, endure the turbulence, and enjoy the ride" Waiting on the Lord seems to work better for me.