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beginagainrose
05-20-2009, 01:03 PM
Just one other thing I am still dealing with and wondering does anyone else struggle with this:

I have been back in Modesto almost a year and haven't run into my pastor. I was wondering how life has been going for him in light of all he has done to me. I still marvel ( :o ) that after 12 years none of these people; especially him... are not trying to track me down to apologize and seek forgiveness or any kind of reconcilliation.

So, I did a Zaba Search (just about finds anyone) and I got his current address... then I entered that into Goggle Earth to see where he is living... a huge, newer home and right down the road from a golf course. Guess that is no surprise since he built his new church, eh... country club literally on a golf driving range! But all I could do was shake my head. I have lost my new home, car, belongings... almost a complete wipeout and there he sits enjoying the "good life"... all I could do was comfort myself that the Lord will fulfill His Word.... His way... His time... but it sure stings... UGH!:mad:

Timid
05-21-2009, 12:29 AM
Just one other thing I am still dealing with and wondering does anyone else struggle with this:

I have been back in Modesto almost a year and haven't run into my pastor. I still marvel ( :o ) that after 12 years none of these people; especially him... are not trying to track me down to apologize and seek forgiveness or any kind of reconcilliation.

I have lost my new home, car, belongings... almost a complete wipeout and there he sits enjoying the "good life"... all I could do was comfort myself that the Lord will fulfill His Word.... His way... His time... but it sure stings... UGH!:mad:

Yes, I struggle with the same thoughts and feelings. It does sting. Why does God allow what seems like such injustice to continue? Why does it feel like the "bad guys" always seem to come out on top?

I felt the same way when pre-school teachers molested my 4 year old daughter and the police threatened to put my hubby and I in jail. :mad: The teachers never did get punished. It was a difficult time. But I had to learn to give it all to God and trust that He has everything in control, even if it doesn't feel like it sometimes.

The one thing that I hold on to is that our lives here are so short compared to eternity. And God told us that the first will be last in heaven, and the last will be first. So I am hoping and trusting that those of us that have been squashed here, will be better off there.

:) Maybe you will have a bigger mansion in heaven compared to your ex-pastor. And living in heaven is a whole lot longer than living down here. :p

Keep your chin up and your eyes on God. In the end He will make all things right again.

Your sis in Christ

Timid

Willow
05-21-2009, 04:36 AM
When I enter this line of thinking... that's about the time my god tells me to pray for my enemies... so I try really really hard not to go there in my mind so I don't have to be pressed against THAT wall! LOL

Just one other thing I am still dealing with and wondering does anyone else struggle with this:

I have been back in Modesto almost a year and haven't run into my pastor. I was wondering how life has been going for him in light of all he has done to me. I still marvel ( :o ) that after 12 years none of these people; especially him... are not trying to track me down to apologize and seek forgiveness or any kind of reconcilliation.

So, I did a Zaba Search (just about finds anyone) and I got his current address... then I entered that into Goggle Earth to see where he is living... a huge, newer home and right down the road from a golf course. Guess that is no surprise since he built his new church, eh... country club literally on a golf driving range! But all I could do was shake my head. I have lost my new home, car, belongings... almost a complete wipeout and there he sits enjoying the "good life"... all I could do was comfort myself that the Lord will fulfill His Word.... His way... His time... but it sure stings... UGH!:mad:

Jerry
05-21-2009, 07:51 AM
I have lost my new home, car, belongings... almost a complete wipeout and there he sits enjoying the "good life"...

Yes,,,,,,,and he has his reward ;)

JaniceB
05-21-2009, 08:45 AM
Check Zaba again in a few years and see if he's still there. That is if you remember in a few years. He might not be so important by then.;)

beginagainrose
05-21-2009, 10:39 AM
Thanks everyone for such sweeet encouragement... and so funny!... I needed to laugh... I think that as I sit here with everything packed and ready for our move to Seattle with little to do but walk my dog, a few daily's around my house, I simple have too much extra time on my hands!:o:)

Carmen
05-21-2009, 10:53 AM
I still marvel that after 12 years none of these people; especially him... are not trying to track me down to apologize and seek forgiveness or any kind of reconcilliation.

If they have not by now then they don't have the spiritual maturity and good conscience that you do. :) They are not worthy of your friendship.

I think that especially those that perceived themselves as being spiritually superior should be the first to be humble enough to apologize and seek reconciliation. But it seems to me that often the tables are turned. It is "the little guy" that has more spiritual maturity and is more humble than the others. I think that in this way such churches are only a reflection of the world. They are only playing church.

beginagainrose
05-21-2009, 11:13 AM
((((((((((((((((((Carmen))))))))))))))))) ... wow... salve in my wounds.

JaniceB
05-21-2009, 03:02 PM
I think that especially those that perceived themselves as being spiritually superior should be the first to be humble enough to apologize and seek reconciliation. But it seems to me that often the tables are turned. It is "the little guy" that has more spiritual maturity and is more humble than the others. I think that in this way such churches are only a reflection of the world. They are only playing church.

Isn't that the absolute truth? You are very perceptive, Carmen.

Have you ever read the Dr. Suess book Yertle the Turtle? It gets this point across very well. :)

Anna Marta
05-22-2009, 05:46 AM
Good old Yertle should be required reading! So should "A Peacock Among Penguins."

This site is filled with peacocks who could not make it in the religious world of penguins... :D

dougjb
05-22-2009, 06:07 AM
Just one other thing I am still dealing with and wondering does anyone else struggle with this:

I have been back in Modesto almost a year and haven't run into my pastor. I was wondering how life has been going for him in light of all he has done to me. I still marvel ( :o ) that after 12 years none of these people; especially him... are not trying to track me down to apologize and seek forgiveness or any kind of reconcilliation.

So, I did a Zaba Search (just about finds anyone) and I got his current address... then I entered that into Goggle Earth to see where he is living... a huge, newer home and right down the road from a golf course. Guess that is no surprise since he built his new church, eh... country club literally on a golf driving range! But all I could do was shake my head. I have lost my new home, car, belongings... almost a complete wipeout and there he sits enjoying the "good life"... all I could do was comfort myself that the Lord will fulfill His Word.... His way... His time... but it sure stings... UGH!:mad:

Hi begninagainrose,
It is not difficult to apologize when mistakes are made because of human fallibility. However, reconcilliation and apologizing is impossible if there is a lot of mischief going on. The reason being is that when one is forced to apologize for one thing, then one must start apologizing for other errors. If that individual is committing a truck load of sins, repentance could be fatal to his ministry because people will start seeing the gravity of problems stemming from him. For job security, lets just sweep things under the rug.

dougjb
some food for thought

beginagainrose
05-22-2009, 07:57 AM
AM... too funny... this guy is a different bird alright... but I was thinking more along the lines of a turkey!:D

And Doug... your point is so true... yet, I have met people from his "flock" and have told them the truth, even about thesperm-donor scheme, wire-tapping, murder for hire scheme... NOTHING has changed! It boggles the mind...at least mine.:rolleyes: