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riverdove
12-12-2008, 11:11 AM
I don't know this speaker, but I thought he had a lot of good things to say about spiritual abuse by just watching this one video. Here's the link if interested:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOGTqRf4rAs&feature=channel_page

ex-shep
12-12-2008, 11:32 AM
For us who are firewalled at work, do have some info to illuminate? Of course I can check when I get home

Anna Marta
12-12-2008, 04:39 PM
Thanks for the video. Intend to listen to some of the other ones too.
I could identify with some of what he said.

AM

ex-shep
12-12-2008, 07:57 PM
That pretty much sums it up.

riverdove
12-12-2008, 10:37 PM
You're welcome, AM. I would like to listen to some of his other videos also. Ex shep, glad you got to listen to it at last. I was at work and had to make the message short.

ex-shep
12-12-2008, 11:42 PM
You're welcome, AM. I would like to listen to some of his other videos also. Ex shep, glad you got to listen to it at last. I was at work and had to make the message short.

Same bind at work. Not sure what to make of the other videos.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1kjb_QY8_o&feature=related

On what is spiritual abuse sounded well documented. Sounds like a listen.

Do have to admit both were my story.

JaniceB
12-14-2008, 12:39 PM
This is very good. He adds clarification which in my heart is really what I need. Even years after being victimized by spiritual abuse I have trouble explaining it to other people especially my husband. I've placed BroJustin's page on my favorites. Thanks for sharing it with us.

Jerry
12-14-2008, 01:22 PM
So far I have watched just the one video,,,,,,,,,but,,,,,,,,,,I think I like BroJustin ;)

riverdove
12-14-2008, 09:02 PM
JaniceB, you're welcome. I can understand the trouble of not explaining it to others very well. Even the thoughts of it makes me so tired mentally and sometimes all I could do is just distract myself with work. It must be painful if you cannot explain it to your husband. For me, the pain is dealing with my biological family members. They see me as an outcast, the problem and not for what I've been through. This has brought so much strain in our relationship, but through this all, I've also come to the realization of the dysfunctional and codependence relationship that I've been having with them ...
BroJustin does speak with depth and compassion and when I have more time, I will get to listen to more of his videos.

Ex Shep, I have also seen the other video. It was also a helpful one for me.

Are you going to listen to the rest of his videos, Jerry? Maybe you'll find more interesting ones if you do.

ellie0204
12-14-2008, 10:24 PM
Thanks for sharing!

Anna Marta
12-15-2008, 04:43 AM
This has brought so much strain in our relationship, but through this all, I've also come to the realization of the dysfunctional and codependence relationship that I've been having with them ...


You are telling my story... that realization took my whole life on a new track and me on a whole new journey deeper inside myself.

Love
AM

ex-shep
12-15-2008, 05:58 AM
JaniceB, you're welcome. I can understand the trouble of not explaining it to others very well. Even the thoughts of it makes me so tired mentally and sometimes all I could do is just distract myself with work. It must be painful if you cannot explain it to your husband. For me, the pain is dealing with my biological family members. They see me as an outcast, the problem and not for what I've been through. This has brought so much strain in our relationship, but through this all, I've also come to the realization of the dysfunctional and codependence relationship that I've been having with them ...
BroJustin does speak with depth and compassion and when I have more time, I will get to listen to more of his videos.

Ex Shep, I have also seen the other video. It was also a helpful one for me.

Are you going to listen to the rest of his videos, Jerry? Maybe you'll find more interesting ones if you do.



I can relate to the outcast feeling. When I was in my groups, my parents wanted nothing to do with me. When I started a program of recovery, my parents could care less. That is probably why I came up the analogies of the Maytag Repairman.

JaniceB
12-16-2008, 10:43 AM
It must be painful if you cannot explain it to your husband. For me, the pain is dealing with my biological family members. They see me as an outcast

Ah, yes. I don't think about my biological family as much as would be good for me. They are indeed a problem but they're still family and I need to be careful not to shut them out of my mind.

My mother was the "religious" one in the family and she was very disappointed when I left the Baptists. She did her best martyr act. But now she has passed on to the great land of martyrs--10 years ago--and isn't my biggest problem anymore.

My sisters each went their own ways and still see me as the religious crazy who abused them spiritually. Yes, I did that before I saw the light of God's grace. So they don't really want to talk with me about church, God, etc. That's okay. We talk about other things when we talk. Problem is they won't even give me a chance.

My husband is the lucky one in that he didn't get raked over the coals in church or at home when it came to spiritual issues. A little maybe. Did you know, for instance, that Baby Jesus cries if you touch yourself inappropriately? I didn't either but he told me that one. But for the most part he takes what he likes and leaves what he doesn't.

Fortunately, he's listened long enough and lovingly enough to start to understand how badly church can hurt. He's with me in my zeal for recovery and for supporting other people who are going through the same issues. It helps him understand some of the insanity going on in our church right now, too.

Thanks for listening, folks. I needed to share that.

riverdove
12-20-2008, 07:30 PM
Thanks for sharing your part of the story. I'm glad to hear that your hubby is supportive and willing to be a part of your recovery process. That is certainly a huge blessisng. I too am blessed by my hubby's patience and encouragement all these years. That has kept our family together through rough times for which I'm eternally thankful for.