Interesting Link - non-christian

[Willow]

This is an interesting link for those of you who are so inclined to question the origins of christianity. It's not for everyone, but I know some of you have the same questions as I do and like to read about it. Here's the link:

http://www.medmalexperts.com/POCM/

[Voyager]

Wow, that's pretty interesting stuff Willow. I find myself wondering a lot about the superstitious side of religion. Looking back, the church I was in was full of superstitious stuff. For example, we would pick scriptures out of the offering plate on New Years Day and take seriously whatever verse that "God" gave us. I've seen people cut up all of their credit cards because they pulled out a verse on the evils of money. Or the one where we were told to keep an eye on our children during supposed "satanic high holidays" throughout the year. I cannot even begin to tell you all of the wacked-out stuff that I witnessed. But it all had one thing in common - it was all based in fear.

I'm just glad I'm out of that hokey stuff Willow - and I'm glad you are out too, you ex-pagan you!

:D

[Doug64]

Can you elaborate on the "satanic high holy days?" That's a new one on me.

It is quite refreshing to look at God and the scriptures without preconceived ideas about them. As ML King said; "We are free, we are free at last."

Doug:)

[Willow]

I know what Voyager is referring to. Halloween. It's the high satanic day and christians in my church were not to take part in it and were to pray protection from satan over themselves and their loved ones during this season. I have no doubt in the pagan origins of this holiday and nearly every other holiday we celebrate. I'm not concerned with the evil like I used to be though. I'm more concerned about more tangible, real-world evils these days.

[Willow]

Voyager... you were one of the folks I thought might find that link interesting. Glad you did! I've questioned stuff like communion and abstinence from alcohol, etc. even when I was a babe in Christ. It's just not real clear in the Bible, yet the church holds the rituals as bible truth.

[Satscout]

Can you elaborate on the "satanic high holy days?" That's a new one on me.

It is quite refreshing to look at God and the scriptures without preconceived ideas about them. As ML King said; "We are free, we are free at last."

Doug:)

The only two pagan holy days I can name are Samhain/"Hallowe'en" and Beltaine; I know there are at least eight major days associated with Wicca of which those are two. Can't tell you much about the other flavors of paganism, however. *shrug*. Samhain is supposed to be the day marking the shift into fall-winter, a day associated with the dead and the closest approach of the spirit world to the material one - see "All Hallows Day", a christianization of this re: the "holy dead" from which our term All Hallows Eve or Halloween came - and I have seen this concept also in Celtic legend (read: Druid history). Beltaine marks the beginning of spring-summer and was usually celebrated with, um, pairing-off. Dunno who in the modern world would celebrate THAT one "traditionally"... *tuneless whistle* See Celtic history reference. *grin*

The sex alone would be enough for Mother Church to condemn Beltaine...

*snicker*

Sharon

[Reg]

Signs of Paganism are all around us today and hardly anyone takes any notice of them.

For instance, the days of the week, the months of the year are just a couple that no one associates with Paganism. Even wedding rings have their roots in Pagansm.

What I think is important is what does it mean to people today? The names and weeks of the year are just that. There's no one who feels they need to be changed because they where associated with Paganism. They are just the way we distinguish the period of time today. So it's really a mute point, just like wedding rings and even a lot of the stuff on that site. If people willingly know they are dealing with Paganism then I think it could be a problem, but Christmas, Easter etc. are not associated in the minds of people in general with paganism. They have been converted. Just like some people. :) They've become a new creature. :D

[Willow]

The whole concept makes me wonder... if we tracked down all pagan remnants and rituals and took them out of our society... what would we have left?

[Voyager]

The whole concept makes me wonder... if we tracked down all pagan remnants and rituals and took them out of our society... what would we have left?

You would probably find out that deep down we are all pagans and we wouldn't want to part with our pagan ways and traditions.

:D

[Willow]

LOL! You're right!!!! :p