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christian sister
03-06-2008, 02:30 PM
I wish my new boss would either quit or be fired:
first she's gay, second she is now FORCING us to come in on our days off to work, and she fireing everyone she can, or making life at work so miserable that their quiting.
She's been there 3 months and is screwing things up more and more, and making it impossible for us to do our jobs, plus she's never worked in this career field before and is just messing everything up, she needs to go!
the big wigs dont want to fire her cause then they would loose either days off to cover for her,till a new person is hired to take her place,but its ok for us little guys to lose our days off!

hornblower
03-06-2008, 10:17 PM
blow hardy my friend....let it all out, it will help I know..... I know what you are saying...... Ive only had one decent job in my whole life and Ive seen some real doozies. I dont know how anyone gets through a day.

If a person has a good boss and a does what he likes to do Im telling you its a gold mind these days, maybe its always been like that I dont know.

Ill be lifting you up in prayer and the only thing I could ever advise anyone to do about a misrerable boss is to work for God not for your boss try to enjoy your day and preted they dont exist pray for them and tell God JUST how you feel pour your heart out to Him.........He understands this world and loves people down here, why Ill never understand, but He does, I sure dont, not the bad ones anyway, the ones that make peoples lives a living nitemare.

It used to help me to belong to a good small group in my little church and have these well meaning christians pray for me to be protected. I could 'feel' their prayers at work for me.

Other than that my sister I will be praying too and hoping things will get better soon for you.
Im so sorry you are suffering in this job like that.

Jerry
03-07-2008, 12:08 AM
I wish my new boss would either quit or be fired:
first she's gay, second she is now FORCING us to come in on our days off to work, and she fireing everyone she can, or making life at work so miserable that their quiting.
She's been there 3 months and is screwing things up more and more, and making it impossible for us to do our jobs, plus she's never worked in this career field before and is just messing everything up, she needs to go!
the big wigs dont want to fire her cause then they would loose either days off to cover for her,till a new person is hired to take her place,but its ok for us little guys to lose our days off!


Watch the movie "Fist" you'll know what to do ;)

ex-shep
03-07-2008, 08:07 PM
Anybody who has know my memorable career at Metro Airlines and the witchy poo will nod in supportive agreement. It is in the archives. I had to vent too during the madness. The could not have been more helpful.

jane
03-07-2008, 10:11 PM
you lost me at the gay comment.

sorry.

that kind of comment was made from the pulpit too much........

I don't have time to judge other people, too much judgement came against me (no, I'm not gay, just sick of hearing it like it is the only non forgiveable sin)........and the pain from self righteousness is still hurting me.

someone being gay has nothing to do with how they make your job terrible.

JMO

jane

Hope 98
03-08-2008, 01:45 AM
you lost me at the gay comment.

sorry.

that kind of comment was made from the pulpit too much........

I don't have time to judge other people, too much judgement came against me (no, I'm not gay, just sick of hearing it like it is the only non forgiveable sin)........and the pain from self righteousness is still hurting me.

someone being gay has nothing to do with how they make your job terrible.

JMO

jane

Well I agree with you on the point of being sick of hearing about gay people as if it is the only unforgivable sin.

A boss's sexual orientation can effect the WAY they make a job terrible.

I had a boss who was gay - didn't care THAT she was gay - but she had a serious problem relating to people because of her orientation.

It would take a lot to explain and it happened a long long time ago in my life - and it didn't effect me nearly so much as others.

I saw the complaint as having a lot more to do with the work issues than the gayness, but maybe just because I could relate.

jane
03-08-2008, 07:24 AM
if being gay has nothing to do with it- maybe it shouldn't be said.

if I wrote something and said
first, he's a man
or
first, he's black-

it states that it is an issue- and it is critical of something that has nothing to do with how someone is treating you-it attacks them; not their behavior towards you- and it groups someone inappropriately. using my examples, most would call me sexist or racist- but in the christian community we allow comments about gays that are just as discriminatory.

let God judge other's lives-I have too many of my own flaws.

Jerry
03-08-2008, 08:10 AM
I remember when "gay" ment you were happy ;) Guess I am old :eek:

mary
03-08-2008, 11:03 AM
The hairdresser I've had for the past five years is gay - and now he has cancer and so we've prayed together, because (contrary to what I thought he should do, and I told him as much) he postponed his surgery so he could "take care of" all of his clients before he goes on disability for awhile. His surgery is next week... I don't approve of his lifestyle, but you have to care about individuals... I have relatives (3 of 'em) who are gay...

But still... I see the other side. The Bible has strong things to say about that behavior, and we can't slough them off. On the other hand, we have all sinned grievously, whether we're heterosexuals or homosexuals. We all need the cleansing Blood of the Lamb; we all need to repent, turn from our old ways and rely on Jesus's righteousness, not our own.

Unfortunately, though, in our society, "gay" has become the "new black," and a lot of favoritism is practiced, which is where ChristianSister may be having her problem and why she may have mentioned it. This is unfair to straights and to blacks, I think. The struggle for civil rights was necessary and noble - and it had the desired result, if it, in itself, didn't go somewhat too far, which it certainly did by reverse discrimination. Same thing is happening in many places with regard to the "gay-straight" issue.

I'm reminded of the recent incident, I believe in the South, of the white, gay businessman who was in a meeting in an organization that was struggling financially. He made the remark that the company would have to be "niggardly" in its future expenditures on unnecessary things. A black employee overheard this and filed a lawsuit against the white employee and the company based on racial discrimination. Now, "niggardly" is a perfectly acceptable word that has Norse language origins and has basically traveled into English with its original meaning intact, which is "frugal." Anyone who went to a good high school or college, or who has read a bit, knows that it is no racial slur. What happened? The (incidentally) gay guy was fired because he had a good vocabulary. He in turn filed a lawsuit, but his firing was upheld by the courts. I rest my case that the judiciary is often made up of flaming idiots.

I, too, remember when "gay" meant "happy." If you're old, Jerry -- you have company down here in the LP (where right now, it's snowing to beat the band! :) :rolleyes: ).

mary

broken_hearted_sheep
03-08-2008, 01:35 PM
Unfortunately, though, in our society, "gay" has become the "new black," and a lot of favoritism is practiced, which is where ChristianSister may be having her problem and why she may have mentioned it. This is unfair to straights and to blacks, I think. The struggle for civil rights was necessary and noble - and it had the desired result, if it, in itself, didn't go somewhat too far, which it certainly did by reverse discrimination. Same thing is happening in many places with regard to the "gay-straight" issue.

Not trying to divert too much off topic, but I have to comment. Umm, as a black woman, I do understand your statement and appreciate your insight, but without running the risk of being overly sensitive, "the new black?"

Before I knew what the Bible ever said about homosexuality, I would get aggravated when the struggle for gay rights was equated to the civil rights movement. Why? I think all people deserve to be treated equally - of course! But here is the problem I have with all of this stuff. If you don't want a person to know your sexual orientation, HETEROSEXUAL or HOMOSEXUAL, you don't have to broadcast it, but whether I open my mouth or not, I'm still black!!!!

Whatever issues christiansister is having with this boss, is it wrong to single our her homosexuality as a part of the problem? No, I don't think so because sometimes, and I am strictly speaking from my perspective and experience, a married black female's perspective, people do allow those differences (gender, race, sexual orientation) to make them terrible bosses. I have personally witnessed people become filled with anger of how people treat them b/c their race, gender etc; Instead of keeping their eye on doing what is best for their team, their issues poison their judgment and render them ineffective, mean, beligerent and hostile to all, sometimes even people within the same group (i.e. black, gay etc.)

I think perhaps as christiansister eluded, there is something about her boss's sexual orientation that creates a hostile atmosphere for the people who work for her. We have to be careful when labeling, agreed. But we also have to wary of being so pc that we never speak the truth. Remember the Emperor's New Clothes?

I think we who are a part of the "minority" classes should stop being so offended anytime some criticizes us or points something out that is not positive. If we would just deal with our reactions, instead of trying to focus the blame on others, we would be far better off.

Christiansister, the only weapon you have here is love. I don't mean be a doormat, but I mean ask the Lord to help you love even your enemies. I'll pray for you and I hope things improve for you.

BH Sheep

mary
03-08-2008, 03:02 PM
Not trying to divert too much off topic, but I have to comment. Umm, as a black woman, I do understand your statement and appreciate your insight, but without running the risk of being overly sensitive, "the new black?"



Dear (((BHS))), I certainly meant no offense, and I apologize to you most sincerely for any I caused... :o My reference to the gay vs. black agendas was that I have long been irked that the gay agenda has sort of hijacked the civil rights "model" and styled itself after that. I'm old enough to remember the fight for civil rights (although admittedly I've never lived south of the Mason-Dixon line). I don't like it when people use their behavior, not their God-given ethnicity (which, at bottom and in God's eyes, is immaterial anyway) as an immutable part of their identity. In the old days, white people used their own sinful behavior (i.e., racism) against another race and sometimes justified it in the name of religion, and that was and is wrong. It's THAT behavior that's wrong. As the civil rights agenda rightfully did its work and resulted in tremendous gains for those it was intended to benefit, so the gay agenda is trying to "latch onto" its methods for itself. And I don't think that's right. Black people needed to clue in whites that it isn't the color of skin that matters in a person, but the quality of their character. I wish that more people would read MLK's "Letter from the Birmingham City Jail;" I just loaned it out again as I have it as part of an anthology of MLK's writings. If more people were to read the "Letter..." I think they'd understand what he was all about. I wish every white person who claims to be a Christian would read the "Letter..."

By "the new black" reference, I was also decrying the fact that some gays seem to try to hang onto the coattails of the civil rights movement for economic reasons and to further their own cause in other ways. Again, see the "Letter..." and other writings of MLK and others. There were solid, economic reasons behind the civil rights agenda, and one is that qualified blacks were barred from educational and employment opportunities based merely upon the color of their skin. This was wrong and has been rectified to a great extent. But for gays to allege the same type of discrimination is just wrong and people of all races should not allow the comparisons to be made. Gay people already have a higher, per-capita and per-household income level than the average in this country. It's not always obvious who's gay and who's not, and the number of people who come out of "the lifestyle" eventually is impressive. The analogies - all of them - fail.

As a white person who's followed the civil rights movement, who grew up in Detroit and who has a number of black Christian friends, I resent the parallels that the gay lobby tries to draw between it and the civil rights movement, and that's why I said what I did. I say this also as someone with gay friends and relatives, whom I love but whose persistence in that lifestyle grieves me. The fact that anyone I've ever known is black or Asian or whatever has NEVER grieved me...

Okay, so this post should probably be moved to the "No Cross-Talk Forum" immediately, so I will let it happen... :D I just wanted to explain to you, BHS, a dear and valuable participant in this forum, where I was coming from on that issue. If I haven't explained myself satisfactorily, please, please, feel free to PM me.

Love in our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ,

mary

broken_hearted_sheep
03-08-2008, 05:00 PM
I love ya Mary!:) It's not that I was offended, but I wanted to better understand what you meant.

I also wanted to take a look at Christian Sister's issue from all sides. I appreciate your clarity in the manner.

Won't it be lovely when all these silly and unnecessary labels won't matter?:)

mary
03-08-2008, 07:01 PM
I love ya Mary!:) It's not that I was offended, but I wanted to better understand what you meant.

I also wanted to take a look at Christian Sister's issue from all sides. I appreciate your clarity in the manner.

Won't it be lovely when all these silly and unnecessary labels won't matter?:)

Love you, too, BHS!!! :) :) :)

I look forward to the day when, if it happens that we don't get to meet here on earth and give each other a big hug (but Anna Marta and I actually DID get to do that! - :) ), then we will "in the morning," on the other side, where we'll all be in perfect fellowship and worshipping our Lord Jesus Christ together!!!

Have a blessed Lord's Day tomorrow, dear sister in Christ --

mary

jane
03-08-2008, 10:25 PM
Won't it be lovely when all these silly and unnecessary labels won't matter?


well, that sums up the exact point I was trying to make, [I]these labels ARE silly and unnecessary in CHRIST![/I

If I am upset by how I am treated, I hope that I speak on the behaviors of the person and not make general comments that are belittling in our culture.

thats all I meant.

Jerry
03-09-2008, 01:18 PM
well, that sums up the exact point I was trying to make, [I]these labels ARE silly and unnecessary in CHRIST![/I

If I am upset by how I am treated, I hope that I speak on the behaviors of the person and not make general comments that are belittling in our culture.

thats all I meant.

So,,,,,,,lets start here to dissipate the ignorance......First there is only "ONE" race,,,,,that being the "Human" race.To explain lets take the example of the rabbit....We have the Cotton Tail and the Varying Hare .....2 Races of the same animal.The fact that defines them as 2 different races of rabbit is their inability to reproduce.This condition does not exist between Black,Cauc,Oriental,Native American,etc.Yes there is a wide range of skin pigmentation,,,,,,but all within the same "Race",,,,,THE HUMAN RACE !!!!,,,"And God saw every thing that He had made,and,,,, "Behold",,,,it was very good..."...

Love Jerry

christian sister
07-28-2010, 04:11 PM
About three weeks after posting this, the boss quit,she found a job
elsewhere -THANK GOD !