Tornadoes...

[yeshua'smags]

UUUUUUGGHHH!!!!

I don't even know how to begin this, there are so many twists and turns. But if I don't get some other outside opinions on this...I think my head will explode!

I hate my in-laws. Not a new story for anyone with in-laws, but mine can be especially heinous. They still attend St. Lucifer's. They think we made up all of the things that make us hate that place. They think we will "come to our senses" one day and come back. They think I have brainwashed my husband into thinking ill of their wonderful, spirit filled...oh it makes me gag to even joke about it! They think by going to another church that is not Methodist we have joined some kind of snake-worshipping cult. I assure you, we have not, it's just not a country club. They are the one's who drank the Kool Aid. They have believed whatever unbelievable spin those crazies put on why we all left. And it must be a doozy, because whenever we see present members of St. Lucifer's out somewhere, we either get shunned or the become visibly shaken and uncomfortable....weird. If we were wrong, shouldn't we be uncomfortable?

Anyway, my monster-in-law is on some "Homecoming Committee" (Jesus help me!) and had the nerve to call us the other day and ask us for my sister's new address, my mother's address, and informed us that we are all going to be invited to the St. Lucifer's 20th Anniversary Homecoming Festival or whatever bullSh** title it has...
Is she serious? My husband told her that St. Lucifer's was no longer our home church, and that they would be wasting a stamp. HA! Well she freaked. But the next day called to badger us for the addresses....again! She has nerve like no other...the kind that comes from sheer sheltered stupidity!

Why in the hell would we want to go back?? Why would she even ask?? Can people really be THAT stupid??? Are they just trying to cover their asses? Make it look like it's our problem, not theirs? I mean really??? My sister told my husband to go ahead and give them their address and they would tell them to shove (nicely) it when they got the invitation...I don't even want the slimy thing, covered in their denial, in my mailbox!

I'm so not reacting to this the way I'd like....I would like to think I'm passed all of this....and I'm sorry this post isn't very nice....but it's like another tornado ripping through my days....

GRRRRRRR....does anyone have any....anything??:mad::mad::mad::mad:

[FreeinJesus]

Oh Yeshuasmags...I wish I could spend more time on this because I can relate, (short on time now)

1- they are in denial of how bad things really are/were & the pain you experienced

2- they are playing the "well WE tried to be nice"...Bu11sh1t:mad:

3 - it's definitely head-games

Just my humble opi:o

[mary]

Dear Maggie,

(When I saw the post title, I thought, oh, I hope none of Mags's relatives were caught in the tornadoes this past week! :eek: )

In answer to your points, I agree with FIJ and would add that yes, people can be that stupid and I can give personal anecdotes that would testify to the truth of that statement, but I don't want to "steal your thunder"
(;)).

Your post is appalling. The gross insensitivity on full display -- no, on PARADE... :mad: It's mind-boggling, Maggie. I'm so sorry!

In the past, I've done things with invitations like that of which I wasn't proud later. There are some things that really make a ferocious point and yet are hilarious that you COULD do... :D I have a bulging arsenal of ideas for fun, frolic and energetic mayhem and I have occasionally raided that arsenal, but as I've gotten older, I've seen the wisdom of keeping it under lock and key. One can always fantasize - or, better yet, refuse to think about it. Out the door and into the trash can with bad rubbish, like invitations to St. Lucifer's Homecoming. (What would you wear to such an event? Could you come in costume? In drag? The possibilities are endless...:cool: :p)

I do hope that your relatives do an about-turn and begin to exercise some common sense! I hope your mailbox isn't fouled after all by one of these invitations!!!!

mary

[broken_hearted_sheep]

Of course this women is serious.:mad: She is driven by the "puppet master", oops I mean pastor.

They teach their underlings to demonize their enemies to everyone, even people who aren't necessarily a part of St. Lucifer's. They have to gain as much support as they can to legitimize their position, that you're the crazy ones not them. They will try their tactics of mind control on anyone they can get their hands on.

She is using the oldest trick in the book, character assassination. If the church can convince your sister and mother how loving and wonderful they are, then it will look like you really have lost your minds. The devil loves a good mudslinging contest.

To me, realizing we are victims of spiritual abuse is just like the scene in the Wizard of Oz when Dorothy discovers the all powerful Oz is just a scared little man pulling levers, using smoke and a lot of loud noise. That visualization of my abusers helps me to remember this: the devil is only LIKE a roaring lion. He is defanged, declawed and on his way to Destruction!

Every member these abusers lose, is one more threat to their empire, one more person who might tell the truth and finally expose them for what they really are.

Stay strong!:)
BHSheep

[yeshua'smags]

Sorry about the title, I didn't mean to be insensitive...I wasn't even thinking...
Thank you for being worried about me, Mary! We are fine.
Thank you all for your responses! I really appreciate having feedback, and hearing that I'm not crazy! I just hope I can sit in the room with my mother-in-law and not lunge at her! grrr:mad::D

We haven't gotten our invites yet...can't wait! I'm also interested to see if my sister gets hers....

[jimsmuse]

Sorry about the title, I didn't mean to be insensitive...I wasn't even thinking...
Thank you for being worried about me, Mary! We are fine.
Thank you all for your responses! I really appreciate having feedback, and hearing that I'm not crazy! I just hope I can sit in the room with my mother-in-law and not lunge at her! grrr:mad::D

We haven't gotten our invites yet...can't wait! I'm also interested to see if my sister gets hers....



Nope, not yet! :rolleyes:

They don't like me either, I am the one that was actually on staff and had the nerve to resign when things started surfacing that "smelled like smoke".

Mary, we could go in costume, drag would be very satisfying. I could go as the "pasturd" and my husband could go as the Pasturd's accomplice, uh, wife!! :p

The mental picture is giving me too much hilarity considering this is really a sick matter.

[hornblower]

Funny you should say Tornadoe...........Yeshua when I was at that other SDt Lucifer church I was involved in one of the first things I went too was the intercessory prayer group meetings. This is my heart inetrecession because Im a practical kind of gal thats why.........unbenownest to the rest of the world............................anyway I always go to these things at any church I attend because Gods the only one thats ever solved any problem Ive ever had right so why not go to HIM and just Him first like duh!

So anyway God used to give me visions.........either that or Im a nut case............while we were all praying..........all four or five of us...........hardly that many people usually show up to pray.........all I saw was tornadoes dozens of them over and over again.

Im so like serious.

I should have know right then this is what this whole thing is going to be here or maybe what it meant is this is what Im going to go through and it aint going to be fun.............it wasnt, it still isnt, it isnt ever going to be!

In the vision..........they are kind of like watching movies sometimes or just a frame of a movie............all of its gone now.............but this used to be churchey me..........????????????

anyway like I was saying in the scene of these tornadoes the only shelter I could finally find that had any peace at all of any kind if you can call it peace????????? was to be smack in the middle of the tornadoe and stay there because that was the eye of it...............there it is calm peaceful, just a hum...................

I take this place to be when I take myself out of the situations in life that everyone else runs too...........I am staying right on my saviors lap being a little girl that needs His utmost attention because Im scared spitless.........I fall down on His knees and tell Him all about these others that are driving me out of my mind which I know is a short walk but hey its my walk you know?

Right there when I cry it all out tell Him scream it to Him He is there bringing me the peace I need.

Tornadoes move around never stay in one place so inevitably I will get caught in that storm of life again and again but being in the midst of it is where He is.............
I so wish I could bring you some comfort I wish I could be Him sometimes and love you the way you so deserve to be loved and healed and I wish it for myself as well because stuff just keeps on a comin doesnt it?
Im not in a good place either right now but tis better than last week at this same time.

Doesnt bother me one bit to talk about real live tornadoes. I was in one when I was a little girl I thought we would all die and we could have easily, the tornadoe that hit my street killed 36 people here in Dallas.........
They are more than real..................
yes I had some really bad things happen with my in laws...........my mother in law was a control freak and she worshipped her son............shes dead and I miss her as i do all of them..............pray for your mother in law if you can.............it doesnt matter how.........tell god how completely annoying she is but ............remember thius my dear one you could be someones mother in law too............I am now and its no fun being old and nobody wanting you around any more. In fact I would say this is the hardest its maybe ever been for me...........I feel so left out of my sons life............his wifes life............and I adore her believe me I do............
they go to a wonderful church and they dont understand me at all...........its all the other way around here for me............its like whats your problem mom dont you know church is just people?
They might as well say it to my face that they think I am the one that makes trouble in a church not the others. Nothing ever goes wrong for them. Yupiedom!

[Jerry]

Here is a cheer to open the Homecoming "PeP Rally" @ St.Lucifers......... ;)


SATAN !! SATAN !! HE'S OUR MAN ,,,, IF HE CAN'T DO IT NO ONE CAN !!!!!! YEEEEHHHHHHH!!!!!!!

[mary]

Uh, Jerry, I don't think I'd exactly laugh at Satan... :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: Makes him think we think he isn't powerful - and he is (Ephesians 6). But greater is He that is in us than he that is in the world (1 John 4:4), so we will triumph. Even over preposterous, self-important bastions of blowhardism like St. Lucifer's.

Laugh at Satan and you draw his attention... And hey, I don't want to see that happen to ANYONE!!!! :rolleyes: :) :) :)

Love,

mary

[Jerry]

So anyway God used to give me visions.........either that or Im a nut case............while we were all praying..........all four or five of us...........hardly that many people usually show up to pray.........all I saw was tornadoes dozens of them over and over again.

Im so like serious.

I should have know right then this is what this whole thing is going to be here or maybe what it meant is this is what Im going to go through and it aint going to be fun.............it wasnt, it still isnt, it isnt ever going to be!

In the vision..........they are kind of like watching movies sometimes or just a frame of a movie............all of its gone now.............but this used to be churchey me..........????????????

anyway like I was saying in the scene of these tornadoes the only shelter I could finally find that had any peace at all of any kind if you can call it peace????????? was to be smack in the middle of the tornadoe and stay there because that was the eye of it...............there it is calm peaceful, just a hum...................



Dear Hornblower,,,
Interesting side bar here;In scripture occasionally God is related as speaking out of a whorl-wind.It is a Hebraic Metaphor denoting anger/rage.A normal breeze or just air movement is related as "Ruach" denoting a calmness of Gods Spirit ;) With that in mind ,,,reread your post,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,interesting indeed :D

Love Jerry

[yeshua'smags]

Here is a cheer to open the Homecoming "PeP Rally" @ St.Lucifers......... ;)


SATAN !! SATAN !! HE'S OUR MAN ,,,, IF HE CAN'T DO IT NO ONE CAN !!!!!! YEEEEHHHHHHH!!!!!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! That's great. They should have that printed on t-shirts. Hey! Maybe we can sit outside of the building and sell them as people walk in! I laugh at Satan because sometimes I give him too much power. I overestimate him....and underestimate my God.