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Crisol
05-31-2007, 08:15 PM
Hi beautiful family of God

My name is Cristina and my first language is Spanish. I am Chilean but I live in Australia and I am learning to write and speak in English. Is not been easy for me, but I love to communicate with people because I believe in the language of love, not matter what language we speaks. I have a lot of mistakes in my expelling and is very hard to write in order what I really want to say, but I would like to share with you and be part of this forum. The last 12 month I went trough a very hard time and God talked to me one day when I read in the Bible about the eagles. I was asking God about my situation and my prayer was that I wanted to be renewed like the eagles. I started to research about these birds and here I am, sharing with you what God explained to me. God is good and use His Creation to talk to us.

God bless you all and thank you for let me write in this forum.



LIKE THE EAGLES

If we learn the life of the eagles, we will realize that’s sometime we are like them in process of renovation.

When I read the life of these birds, I could find the following characteristics:

When the eagle ages (around 40 years), his beak it is long and Sharpe-pointed, it bows, pointing against the breast. His wings are old and ugly, and his feathers are heavy and they lose their vision. Fly is very difficult so the eagle has two options: to die or to face a painful process of renewal.

How is this process of renewal?

The eagles retired to a place far away in a nest near to rocks. While there, the eagle start striking his beak in the rock to breaking it, to lose it. After that, he must wait for the growth of a new one. With the new peak, the eagle will extract the old fingernails, until they grow again. Then, with the new fingernails, he will pluck out every feather on his body until is completely bare. He stay in this hiding place until he has grown new feathers, then is ready to fly again. In the meantime, Oil that appears of her body and it cleans the eyes so the eagle can see again clear. This process of renewal lasted 150 days-5 month, after this time the eagles leaves the nest to live approximately 30 years more.

If we compare our life with the eagles, we can realize that some times we also have to pass for processes of renovation. There are moments in our life where we must be renewed. Some time, that does can be very painful, but God is always in this journey of renewal. If we read the bible in Psalms 103 said:
Psalm 103
1 Praise the LORD, O my soul; All my inmost being, praise his holy name.
2 Praise the LORD, O my soul, and forget not all his benefits-
3 who forgives all your sins and heals all your diseases,
4 who redeems your life from the pit and crowns you with love and compassion,
5 who satisfies your desires with good things so that your youth is renewed like the eagle's.

In the process of renewal, we have to see ourselves as God see us, with mercy and love, to take care of ourselves, like we care of others. In the time of the renewal God is with us, showing us the way, guiding our steps. We have to learn to leave the bad experienced in the past behind and always to be ready to begin again. Don’t be afraid of the changes and be encouraged with the new thing that God is preparing for us. God wants to clean us deeply and to purify our hearts. We are like a glass in the hands of the Potter and if we want to be good servants, we must search our heart every day to look if there is something that God disapprove.

Other physical attribute of the eagle

The eagle has two set of eyelids. One set is for down on the earth, and the other is for looking into the sky and the sun. As a Christian, we have to considerate this, spiritually, we need to have two set of eyelids. We need to be in balance, be practical with the needs of the people but ourselves as well, but the same time we must always looking up our heavenly father in heaven, to worship, love and depending of Him in everything we do.


Isaiah 40:
30Even the youths shall faint and be weary, and the young men shall utterly fall:
31but they that wait upon the LORD shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk, and not faint.

ex-shep
05-31-2007, 11:34 PM
Bienvenidos Sra. I enjoyed your message and your story.

The story of the eagles does lend credence to what former members of their groups have to contend. Anybody who know my story know my whole faith was smashed to pieces with the loss of my friend Tammy and the departure from a series of shepherding groups. I felt I had no choice but to literally start over from the beginning.

Others on the forum have had similar experiences of having to start over.

A good story and analogy. Keep the posts coming. Glad to have you aboard.

Anna Marta
06-01-2007, 05:44 AM
I think I may have some eagle DNA. Feathers growing back...

Thanks,

Anna Marta

abbey
06-01-2007, 08:44 AM
I liked your story. Welcome!

Willow
06-01-2007, 09:54 AM
Hi cristina. Welcome and thank you for the inspiration.

ex-shep
06-01-2007, 10:16 AM
I think I may have some eagle DNA. Feathers growing back...

Thanks,

Anna Marta



sounds like an apt description. I like that.

hornblower
06-04-2007, 12:07 AM
Maybe there is hope for me Crisol thankyou so much for your story about the eagles. When I saw the title for these posts I thought aha there are people out there that like the Eagles as much as I do................lol Eagles the singing group! Hahaha.................this is way better than my singing group. Im way past forty but maybe this is the explanation I've been looking for in my isolated situation since my spiritual abuse.
So I need to break my beak on a rock? And yes it is pointed and sharp and it does point directly down onto my heart........I am a person of unclean lips whao as me...........dearest Lord pass the coal and burn away my dross.........

My nails now .............what nails? My hands look like farmers hands and I dont grow anything????????????
and my feathers?????????? yikes!

Its really bad here at my house.........talk about being shunned........? Some anniversary this is, like all of the others.............nada!
I am what I am and this is what it is.

Jerry
06-04-2007, 03:09 AM
Ya can't "Soar" with the Eagles in the morning ,,,,,,,,if you "Hoot" with the "Owls" all night ;) :D

hornblower
06-04-2007, 04:34 AM
So true Jerr..........cant sleep after what I did today.......Ive been up since 1:00 and now its 5:00 already.........I bought a new role of beading thread (fireline $10.00's worth) and now I cant find it anywhere.............that really gets to me since then I wont be able to work on my project at all with no thread and whats worse is I might have thrown it at my daughter when she was here and maybe she or my husband more than likely threw it away, thinking it was trash.
So now Im paying for my sins again.
My husband is being so smug about all of it and the two of them are talking on the phone over and over again hes being beyond sweet to her. Not speaking at all to me of course unless I say something to him.
Some might say this is not spiritual abuse so it shouldnt be here these posts.........maybe thats right I feel awful even talking about this stuff but believe me my biggest problem in so many ways is with God.
Does He really forgive me when I ask for it?
Are my sins washed away from me and Im made new again?
Today Ive been thinking.......always dangerous...........I grew up with spiritual abuse. I did it to myself I guess. I hated my Mother with a passion. I did I really did. I used to step on the cracks in the sidewalk thinking step on a crack break your Mothers back. I think her relatives know some of this about me and cannot forgive me for it. I dont care I dont like them either but my point is..........because I hated her and I knew I shouldnt hate her that it wasnt right I hated myself and I believed with all of my being that God hated me too. So much so that when I was a senior in high school I finally bit the bullet and tried to end my life. My sister recently told me that she thinks I try to commit suicide to gain attention for myself.
We dont speak any more...............
My sister is not a stupid person. I was very shocked at that comment that she had thought this lie about me all of these years. Im sure the whole family believes this too.
Bottom line thing I feel like Im bamming my head against a wall here. When I was very very sick when I was about nineteen married to my most abusive husband to date I would see what I thought was Gods finger coming down from the sky and shaking at me over and over again..................
Bad bad bad bad person shame on you you shouldnt live you should die..........on and on it would go for days and years in some ways.
I wonder if its not really gone from the inside of me somehow.
Mothers dont scream bad words at their daughters. Wives dont make their husbands ashamed of them.
So what does that make me be?
She wont leave here and he doesnt ever listen to me about getting her out. She uses me, he doesnt even want her to do any work in the house when she comes over here and shes such a slob........stuff everywhere. I have to pick up and pick up, my days are ruined, I cant plan anything.
Didnt matter at all that I was going through a possible breast cancer MRI not to anybody but me.
He never sticks up for me not once what am I supposed to do? I ask the councelor I ask the stevens minister they dont want my marriage to bust up so they just look at me...........my stevens minister has older kids that are in college and she smiles knowingly like "oh arent they just too cute..........?" My d isnt in college!!!!!!!!!
The chances of that ever happening are nill!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Does anybody understand how believing that my d is anywhere near that situation (going to college) hurts the hell out of me?????????? These comments people make are driving me nuts!
She apologised but its like she still just doesnt get it? I think to her its like well just give it to God and just dont clean your house............yeah well thats easy for someone else to say but weve got to get this place sold and get out of here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!
Bottom line thing Ill never fit in with church people no matter how hard I try because of my daughters illnesses and my inability to "OVERCOME" Oh yeah thats the biggy right there that O word!:eek:

Elisabeth
06-04-2007, 09:15 AM
HB,
You take so much of your hurt to heart. :( It's fine to share abuse that's other than spiritual abuse here, by the way. I care about you, and I know the others here do too, by the way.

Anyway, you did not cause others to abuse you. Your mother abusing you, and your husband, is because of them, not you. And as far as not fitting in because of your inability to overcome - well, I've thought that about myself, too. And one conclusion I've come to is Jesus takes us just as we are. Another conclusion is "performance driven" mentality has creeped into the church to the point people are afraid to let their problems show. Others have the same struggles, they just hide it.

hornblower
06-05-2007, 10:41 AM
HB,
You take so much of your hurt to heart. :( It's fine to share abuse that's other than spiritual abuse here, by the way. I care about you, and I know the others here do too, by the way.

Anyway, you did not cause others to abuse you. Your mother abusing you, and your husband, is because of them, not you. And as far as not fitting in because of your inability to overcome - well, I've thought that about myself, too. And one conclusion I've come to is Jesus takes us just as we are. Another conclusion is "performance driven" mentality has creeped into the church to the point people are afraid to let their problems show. Others have the same struggles, they just hide it.

Thankyou so much Elizabeth..........my doctor finally called with the final results and they are all negative on the MRI but Im anemic again so thats expaining a lot to me, my extreme fatigue the dizzy spells fainting like spells i have when my daughter comes over.
I dont think anyone sees or acknowledges except on here that my husband is abusive to me but he is by default..............he just leaves and ignores me if Im sick or in trouble with my d............what to do?
I wish i knew.
I keep praying but nothing changes with either of them.
Usually when I pray I always blame myself thinking I must have a log in my eye to try to pick out the splinter in theirs.........but time and experience have shown me that this thinking has plugged into my poor self image problem my vitimization of myself which is very hard for me to see.
Does anyone else struggle with these kinds of problems?
I think my church relationships often go over into this area and i just cant trust my instincts any more. The condemnation I suffer with is huge!
This last weekend we went to see a movie called Knocked Up..........Im sorry I know many ppl here will think Im terrible for loving this movie as much as I did but through this movie i gained some hope for myself. Thw women in this movie cuss and get angrey just like i do, they experess themselves so much like me or I like them whatever anyway it helped me see I am not unusual really Im just being made to FEEL unusual!
These women put up with a lot from men...........and men being men Im sure would see in this film that they have a great commmraderie of other men that put up with a lot from women????????? I being a woman do not understand the way men often look at things.
My husband is in a lot of ways like the husband in this movie............funny but passive..............cute but irresponsible..........not hufgely irresponsible but nevertheless he doesnt take care of his wife. His wife is extremely strong especailly verbally strong.........like me...........the husband is lying to her..........my husband also does this kind of thing..............then when he lies he says i did this or that because you would get mad..........I get mad because he does wrong things...........what am I supposed to do kiss him for being bad?????????
All of these things in this movie would never fit into the chuch at all but wheteher the church likes it or not this is a true picture of our society and its not new either. My Mom and Dad didnt cuss (in front of us but they did it) and they certainly acted out all of the exact same behaviors as these people had only not as loud or as honest.............the fifities went down the tube because of the sixities and to my mind hallelujah Im glad they did!
I dont believe in free sex or abusing drugs or alcohol...........but I do believe in being real!
I believe the bible calls us to be totally honest about who and what we are. If we cant do that whats the point to anything?
All my husband ever says to me is he doesnt know..........
I ask him why do you not go to church............"I dont know" Why cant you make our d leave the house......."I dont know"..........he just walks out the door like right now and starts working on the yard..........
I end up hugely depressed and very lonely............Im not a happy camper and maybe this is just the way it is. I love that saying it is what it is.