Easy on Oz...

[yeshua'smags]

If you loved him, please pray extra hard for him. He has some issues and needs constant uplifting. :(

I understood where he was coming from at the time. I left then too for awhile, he made some good points. Sorry if that hurts or offends anyone.:o

[Willow]

Not offended at all mags. One of the really beautiful things here to me is that we are learning to be different together. To disagree honestly and maturely. And... to let people go when they need to go. I had to remind myself to let go all over again when the old dialogue popped up. It still bothered me.... so I dared to revisit it. I never like for anyone to leave angry... but that's one thing that wasn't in my control.

[abbey]

I still post over at Oz's website! I admire the man and like him very much. God used him to help me understand the wrong teaching I received about warfare! I only wish him the best! But I was hurt, becasue it made me feel that I wasnt living up to my christian walk. I took it personal. Thats the way my abusers were too, cast me off as not spiritual enough. But i forgive him and want to continue to be friends. Hes has alot on his shoulders too. With his illness and all...

[Hope 98]

I never did understand why Oz left, and I'm not sure I really want to dig it all up.

Sad when somebody leaves hurt or angry.

It's sad now too that Willow is struggling with it.

Personally - I bear no ill-will toward Oz, and hope he will one day be back here to find a lot of open arms willing to welcome him.

[hornblower]

I still post over at Oz's website! I admire the man and like him very much. God used him to help me understand the wrong teaching I received about warfare! I only wish him the best! But I was hurt, becasue it made me feel that I wasnt living up to my christian walk. I took it personal. Thats the way my abusers were too, cast me off as not spiritual enough. But i forgive him and want to continue to be friends. Hes has alot on his shoulders too. With his illness and all...

Nah Abbey it wasnt that way I dont think. He didnt have a problem with you, Im sorry but really you know he was busy too, he had a lot of things going on, maybe with his ministry he needs to keep that way the way he believes. Believe me I do know a little bit about it and Ive battled these things in my family. I know he is right I learned the same principles that you are talking about here but at the same time see he has to have the word like that............
my question is about that so do we really think that God cannot save people without a bible?????????????????????????????
Come on thats rediculous of course He can and does every day! You could be the most spiritual person in this world and never have picked a bible up!
Im serious!
Did Jesus have the NEW testament or the letters??????????
Did the new believers at the time?
No they didnt they only had part of our old testament and it wasnt written the way it is now and look at them how beautiful those saints were????????? They were awesome!
Hey you can bag the whole thing up in a couple of scriptures really? Think about it? In John 1, John says first thing, JESUS IS THE WORD! Like duh what else is there to say?
If Jesus is the word and all things were created therough Him then what are we doing we can talk to Him directly because the HS lives inside of us and he is our teacher and he is Jesus Spirit!
Jesus IS our teacher and wed better get that one right because all of these other so called teachers are mostly confused little boys and girls that think this whole thing is about money and prestige..............no it isnt!
YOU my friend are as spiritual as they come!
Look at what you are going through right now!