Anybody out there?

[promiseseeker]

Hi. I am new here. Doesn't seem to be much activity at this site.That could be a good thing,all things considered! If there is any activity,please respond. Thanks

[apike]

Hi its probably just late and everyones sleeping. Nice to meet you..I was sleeping and woke up wide awake....angry. Its soothing to read here for some reason..that is when I am not getting riled up....

[Reg]

Welcome promiseseeker,

Glad you found us. Feel free to tell us more about your story of SA. Please only tell us what you feel comfortable with.

I am sure you will find much understanding here about how you were affected. I think you have already discovered how little understanding there is out there when you tell others. You will not be misunderstood here. There are many seasoned people here who have much compassion in these sensitive areas.

[SpinningHead]

We're here!!

Welcome!

[yeshua'smags]

Oh, there are a bunch of us here! We just don't do much at 2:51am :D . Keep checking in, we'd love to hear your story.:cool:

[Blownaway]

Oh, yes, we're here. It's been good for me to come to this site to see things at my church for what they really are. It's been an education.

[mary]

Welcome, Promiseseeker!

We are extremely active, when we're awake! :D :D :D Aren't we, ladies and gentlemen? :p :cool: And as Ex-Shep always says, the coffee pot is always on - but he drinks latte, as do many others of us here...;) :)

Feel free to share as you are comfortable doing... You've found friends here, I promise! :) :) :)

In and through our Lord Jesus Christ,

mary

[Willow]

we're quite active... glad you found us. What's on your mind?

[ex-shep]

Welcome, Promiseseeker!

We are extremely active, when we're awake! :D :D :D Aren't we, ladies and gentlemen? :p :cool: And as Ex-Shep always says, the coffee pot is always on - but he drinks latte, as do many others of us here...;) :)

Feel free to share as you are comfortable doing... You've found friends here, I promise! :) :) :)

In and through our Lord Jesus Christ,

mary


I am poring over pouring a poor cup. Come on in. Better latte than never. There is an unwritten requirement to endure some PUNishment; however after our groups, this might be a welcome relief. In any case, welcome aboard and make yourself at home.

[Willow]

Ahhh... the quotable quoter is back with word puns and more word puns! You are clever with the english language exshep ;)

[Elisabeth]

Good morning, PromiseSeeker! You will find this is a bunch of us who regularly go here, and this is a very understanding place. :)

[promiseseeker]

Hi! I am glad there is fellowship via internet!!! My family has been part of a fellowship for 5 years.The spirit of God use to really move there. We learned great and many things there as well. Then we had the inevitable....."CHURCH SPLIT" We remained faithful.The church struggled with Pride, control spirits.They have mixed New Age with the gospel!I never did feel accepted there. Nor,the rest of my family.The church bullied the head pastor into leaving.Now that the head pastor has left,the church splitters are coming back(GO FIGURE):( Back last September we started attending anothere fellowship of believers on a week nite.We have been blessed,we have started to press in again with the Lord.My childrfen love it there(New Body)My husband doesn't feel "RELEASED YET" from the former fellowhip.I personally feel he has ungodly soul ties to that place!The former church hasn't seen a move of the spirit for some time.Frankly,I feel no life there at all! I have come to the place where, I believe ,I can no longer attend there.My children can't stand it there as well!I would like to behave as if my spouse is the spiritual Head.However, it is not in our best interest to continue in a DEAD church.A church where manipulation,rebellion, control and New age influence abound!!!!

[promiseseeker]

Sorry about the mis-spelled words.I have gone on very little sleep lately!:o Due to the restlessness to my situation! Thanks for listening!

[ex-shep]

Ahhh... the quotable quoter is back with word puns and more word puns! You are clever with the english language exshep ;)

Es un trabajo sucio, pero alguna persona tiene que hacerlo. :p

[Willow]

Somehow I knew that was coming.
Wie Gehts?

[Elisabeth]

Hi! I am glad there is fellowship via internet!!! My family has been part of a fellowship for 5 years.The spirit of God use to really move there. We learned great and many things there as well. Then we had the inevitable....."CHURCH SPLIT" We remained faithful.The church struggled with Pride, control spirits.They have mixed New Age with the gospel!I never did feel accepted there. Nor,the rest of my family.The church bullied the head pastor into leaving.Now that the head pastor has left,the church splitters are coming back(GO FIGURE):( Back last September we started attending anothere fellowship of believers on a week nite.We have been blessed,we have started to press in again with the Lord.My childrfen love it there(New Body)My husband doesn't feel "RELEASED YET" from the former fellowhip.I personally feel he has ungodly soul ties to that place!The former church hasn't seen a move of the spirit for some time.Frankly,I feel no life there at all! I have come to the place where, I believe ,I can no longer attend there.My children can't stand it there as well!I would like to behave as if my spouse is the spiritual Head.However, it is not in our best interest to continue in a DEAD church.A church where manipulation,rebellion, control and New age influence abound!!!!

Doesn't sound to me that it's in your best interest, either. My own hubby had been in strict, controlling churches for so long, that it seems to be how he thinks church should be! :eek: We're going to a good church now, but we're moving to a new community and the church he wants to go to there is, as far as I can tell, strict and controlling to the max! I want to help with a new church that's starting up out there in late June. Even though we want our spouses to be the spiritual head, we can not go somewhere where we feel is dead, and where we feel manipulated or controlled.

[mary]

Es un trabajo sucio, pero alguna persona tiene que hacerlo. :p

Bon apres-midi,

Je ne comprends pas. Je ne parle seulement francais et aucun espagnol.

Parlez-vous anglais? :D :D :D

Merci beaucoup!

mary

P. S. What did you say???? :) :) :) :confused:

[ex-shep]

Somehow I knew that was coming.
Wie Gehts?


It's a dirty job, but somebody has to do it.

[mary]

It's a dirty job, but somebody has to do it.

Thanks! BTW, Amy and I love your puns. Keep 'em coming! :D

mary

[butterfly]

:D :D Welcome Promiseseeker,

Don"t worry about the spelling mistakes I do alot myself.:D

We are not in english class here.

butterfly shirley

[ex-shep]

:D :D Welcome Promiseseeker,

Don"t worry about the spelling mistakes I do alot myself.:D

We are not in english class here.

butterfly shirley

Unless we have to have a discussion on antidistestablishmentarianism, I would not be overly concerned.

[mary]

Antidisestablishmentarianism! That was one of my favorite words in spelling bees!!! Has something to do with the Episcopal or Anglican church, doesn't it? It's funny, Ex-Shep: you're not going to believe this, but just over the weekend I was thinking about that word and remembering my "spelling past." Won every school-based bee I was ever in. Many years ago, I took part in a "legal community" spelling bee in downtown Day-TWA and cashed out in it big-time. Came in second among about 150 spellers. It was fun, but I don't think I'd put myself through that again.

There are some things that one can do well that matter. There are others that don't. Being able to spell (almost) perfectly is one of the latter... :D :D :D :D :D

mary

[ex-shep]

Antidisestablishmentarianism! That was one of my favorite words in spelling bees!!! Has something to do with the Episcopal or Anglican church, doesn't it? It's funny, Ex-Shep: you're not going to believe this, but just over the weekend I was thinking about that word and remembering my "spelling past." Won every school-based bee I was ever in. Many years ago, I took part in a "legal community" spelling bee in downtown Day-TWA and cashed out in it big-time. Came in second among about 150 spellers. It was fun, but I don't think I'd put myself through that again.

There are some things that one can do well that matter. There are others that don't. Being able to spell (almost) perfectly is one of the latter... :D :D :D :D :D

mary


So that explains why you have a spell on the forum.

[Elisabeth]

So that explains why you have a spell on the forum.

Groan!!!:p :D :D

[jane]

Prpmiseseeker-

we didn't feel "released" to leave our church either. What happened next was almost two years of total abuse to my family. Sometimes I believe that the "Feeling" of being released is another aspect of spiritual control and manipulation.

why?

Because we are ONE BODY of CHRIST. How can we be released from the body of Christ to another body of Christ?

if it is ok, I will pray for you and your husband. Ask him to find the biblical scriptures to being released.

we could find none.

When we were finally released by our pastor's wife.......she said we weren't in sin, just decieved......

the members of the church disfellowshipped themselves from us as if we left in sin........someone forgot to tell them apparently that we were "released"

so, the two years of abuse and the later abandonment from our close friends in a small community.........was it worth it?

My husband and I think it was more our childhood abandonment issues and need to have approval that was in fact the feelings of "release" that we were looking for.

just sharing my thoughts.

jane





Hi! I am glad there is fellowship via internet!!! My family has been part of a fellowship for 5 years.The spirit of God use to really move there. We learned great and many things there as well. Then we had the inevitable....."CHURCH SPLIT" We remained faithful.The church struggled with Pride, control spirits.They have mixed New Age with the gospel!I never did feel accepted there. Nor,the rest of my family.The church bullied the head pastor into leaving.Now that the head pastor has left,the church splitters are coming back(GO FIGURE):( Back last September we started attending anothere fellowship of believers on a week nite.We have been blessed,we have started to press in again with the Lord.My childrfen love it there(New Body)My husband doesn't feel "RELEASED YET" from the former fellowhip.I personally feel he has ungodly soul ties to that place!The former church hasn't seen a move of the spirit for some time.Frankly,I feel no life there at all! I have come to the place where, I believe ,I can no longer attend there.My children can't stand it there as well!I would like to behave as if my spouse is the spiritual Head.However, it is not in our best interest to continue in a DEAD church.A church where manipulation,rebellion, control and New age influence abound!!!!

[promiseseeker]

Hi everyone!Thanks for all the words of encouragement!:) Yes Jane,Please keep us in prayer!I agree with the "abandonment issues " related to feeling"released".I feel like we are on an emotional rollercoaster half the time!Last time I felt like this was, years ago, while going through a divorce!!!I will talk to someone from the fellowship one day, and things seem to be bizarre! I will speak to another person another day, and things seem okay!:confused: Is this common? I feel very spiritually bi-polar::eek: My husband goes back and forth on what to do!

[mary]

So that explains why you have a spell on the forum.

Well... I did tell you to keep those puns coming, didn't I, Ex-Shep???? I have myself to blame for that one! :)

Yeah, I "put" a spell on the forum. :eek: :eek: :D :D (I sure hope not!!!!!) Hopefully, definitely not like Screamin' Jay Hawkins ("I Put a Spell on You") on YouTube. That video reminds me of a minstrel version of "pastor." (Now I'll go slap myself up the side of the 'haid...' :D for the remainder of the morning!)

mary

[jane]

Well, it was very much the way we went through it and I do believe that it is common......After we had decided to leave for certain :D we met with the pastor and his wife......and a deacon who was a childhood friend of my husband's. By the end of the meeting, we were "staying" and they were going to confront some of the people in our church who were "wronging" us in the name of leadership.

We were so loyal to our pastor and his wife all of a sudden; we would never leave them- look what they were doing for us! We went full force back into service and leadership training.

So, we met with this one women who was head of intecessory- and said some freaky things to me- they confronted her. I mean, stand up yelling putting her in her place; going to take away her ministry if she didn't stop- confrontation.

My flesh was grateful because personally I was really mad at her (one of the things she did was while I was in the process of a late miscarriage- told me that God told her that I didn't have enough faith; to stand in faith and the baby would be born- this is an already diagnosed miscarriage and I needed prayer and support)

but the part of me that knows the heart of the Lord, knew that she was being a bused.........I was feeling awful for her...........and wanted no part of what they were doing.

They had other issues with her that had nothing to do with us and were using our opportunity to "punish" her.......the pastor was being an abusive father.

So we wanted to leave again......then the deacons came to our house to pray for us..........and we were staying again..........and leaving..........and then things were fine.........and then they weren't.......

we felt like we were in labor, a birthing process to freedom.

So yes, I'll bet that what you are going through is quite common.

jane






Hi everyone!Thanks for all the words of encouragement!:) Yes Jane,Please keep us in prayer!I agree with the "abandonment issues " related to feeling"released".I feel like we are on an emotional rollercoaster half the time!Last time I felt like this was, years ago, while going through a divorce!!!I will talk to someone from the fellowship one day, and things seem to be bizarre! I will speak to another person another day, and things seem okay!:confused: Is this common? I feel very spiritually bi-polar::eek: My husband goes back and forth on what to do!