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Reg
12-08-2004, 11:30 AM
Here's the post on Betrayal I told Pinkie Pie I would post re Too high expectations? thread.

PROBLEM

BETRAYAL

The affects of Betrayal also are very similar to those of Spiritual Abuse.

In betrayal, it is the quality of the perceived connection between the parties that determines whether the injustice feels like a betrayal or simply an unpleasant event or behavior.

If someone you feel no particular connection to – promises a gift – and fails to follow-through; perhaps you are upset, disappointed, even angry. The rage and despair often associated with betrayal comes only when the experience is one of a profound, wrenching violation of your faith in another. The establishment of trust is a tremendous commitment you make. It only makes sense that when the commitment is dismissed – the magnitude of that dismissal can feel overwhelming. Whether the betrayal is experienced at the hands of another or is perceived to be experienced at the hands of self – the initial shock and anger can be quite draining; sometimes frightening.

The sense of betrayal can be accompanied by a self-anger, a new/renewed distrust of self, a new/renewed fear of self, and the decision-making skills you possess. With the feeling of betrayal can come the feeling of a psychic implosion. At the moment, you do not feel whole. Many begin to fear they will never feel whole again.

If you are struggling with a feeling of having been betrayed – there are many things you are likely to experience including: (1) shock (2) denial (3) anger (4) extreme hurt/sadness (5) anxiety (6) emotional lethargy (7) social lethargy (8) changes in daily living activities; in other words, many of the symptoms of depression. This is quite normal – but if these symptoms persist for more than two weeks, it is important to meet with a mental health professional for an evaluation for therapy – possibly short term, medication, etc., etc.

As you begin to understand the nature of your feelings and look for ways to proactively heal… you will be on …the road to recovery … In doing this, many may discover that the betrayal, the loss, the anger, and all the other feelings involve not only the immediate betrayal but any other betrayals experienced over your lifetime. Previous experiences of betrayal – whether from infancy / childhood or from adulthood last week can complicate the way in which you experience the betrayal and heal from the betrayal.

Betrayal by another does not have to mean that you have to betray yourself. It does not mean that you are unworthy and unfit. It does not mean that you deserved the treatment you received, nor is it a guarantee that you will be treated the same way again. If you feel betrayed by yourself - you may have to work with someone professionally or in a support group to understand the feelings of betrayal and how you can heal.




SOLUTION:

Tips for healing…

Acknowledge your pain, anguish…and every other feeling you have.

Surround yourself with supportive friends/family.

Create a positive affirmation for yourself .

If you are choosing to end the relationship, writing a letter to allow your own release will be
important for you. (This is a letter that you will very likely not send.)

If you are choosing to continue the relationship, make sure you set clear and specific limits for
future interactions. Setting boundaries is essential. Read the book, "Boundaries".

Make sure to interact with at least one positive force in your life every day.

Allow yourself time to heal and learn.

Forgiveness frees YOU from YOUR pain.

It is critical to remember during this healing time that…

Your trust has been abused…this is a very big deal. Recovery will take time.

You are NOT responsible for the betrayer's decisions. (If you see self as the betrayer of self– recognize that your choices were propelled by choices you felt were reasonable at the time.)

You CAN heal. - You are NOT alone. - You are NOT "stupid."- YOU did not create the betrayal.

You do NOT need to understand the betrayer's actions in order to heal. You DO need to get lots more information if you are going to remain in the relationship.

You may never understand the betrayer's motivations – you do not have to in order to heal. You DO have to if you choose to resume/continue the connection.

If you choose to continue the relationship, you MUST see ACTIVE change in the betrayer towards a new, healthy, HONEST communications style.

You do have CHOICE POWER. - You CAN choose to allow healing. - Healing takes time.

History is NOT a guarantee of the future. The future CAN be different.

You CAN and WILL learn to trust again… as soon as you relearn to trust you.

Sheep
12-08-2004, 06:40 PM
Here's the post on Betrayal I told Pinkie Pie I would post re Too high expectations? thread.

PROBLEM

BETRAYAL

The affects of Betrayal also are very similar to those of Spiritual Abuse.
In doing this, many may discover that the betrayal, the loss, the anger, and all the other feelings involve not only the immediate betrayal but any other betrayals experienced over your lifetime.
You CAN and WILL learn to trust again… as soon as you relearn to trust you.

Reg -

This describes me. Thank you for listing the tips also. I think I'll print your post.

Sheep

Kerrin
12-09-2004, 05:47 AM
Your words are so full of wisdom and sound advice, It all seems too overwhelming to me. When I look back over my life and realize every turn I have made has led to a pathway full of betrayal and pain, how can I not be the one to blame for such a God awful mess, After all, as my parents frequently remind me, i am the way I am , and the choices I;ve made, are because of ME! Nothing to do with their exploits and abuse of my childhood, and adulthood.
(Not to mention the other stuff, I can't talk about yet). Too much pain....
MY question???
How do I know I can be healed and be happy, even know what happy is????????????? (SIGH),
Kerrin

Reg
12-09-2004, 06:14 AM
Your words are so full of wisdom and sound advice,................
MY question???
How do I know I can be healed and be happy, even know what happy is????????????? (SIGH),
Kerrin
Thanks Kerrin. I can almost feel your pain, frustration and deep longing to be well again. :(

Without knowing you personally and understanding your complete story, (the right counselor can help you ftf discover this for yourself) the best person to go to ask this question on a regular basis is God of course. Ask Him to show you the way. And then trust Him and be alert for His direction.

Kerrin
12-09-2004, 06:31 AM
[QUOTE=Reg]Thanks Kerrin. I can almost feel your pain, frustration and deep longing to be well again. :(


:( Thanks Reg,
I don't trust myself to even hear God properly at the moment. I know I need some good counselling help, But I keep falling into traps of finding people who I look to , to tell me what to do, 'cos I don't trust me. Then it falls apart and I'm back at square one. I have a hard time trusting my decisions, even if they are wrong!
My last counselling experience ended with our pastor telling me I had a Jezebel spirit and was a danger to the church.
I sat quietly at the back for 6 months and silently left............no-one noticed 'cos they were warned"It's catching"!,
thanks anyway
:o Kerrin

Kerrin
12-09-2004, 06:34 AM
;) P.S Your pearls of wisdom I think i too will priny off, they are wonderful........ :)
Kerrin

Ontheroad
12-09-2004, 07:32 AM
If you are struggling with a feeling of having been betrayed – there are many things you are likely to experience including: (1) shock (2) denial (3) anger (4) extreme hurt/sadness (5) anxiety (6) emotional lethargy (7) social lethargy (8) changes in daily living activities; in other words, many of the symptoms of depression. This is quite normal – but if these symptoms persist for more than two weeks, it is important to meet with a mental health professional for an evaluation for therapy – possibly short term, medication, etc., etc.

Betrayal by another does not have to mean that you have to betray yourself. It does not mean that you are unworthy and unfit. It does not mean that you deserved the treatment you received, nor is it a guarantee that you will be treated the same way again. If you feel betrayed by yourself - you may have to work with someone professionally or in a support group to understand the feelings of betrayal and how you can heal.[/SIZE] [/COLOR]



Thank you so much for posting this, Reg. It was very timely for me and a friend of mine, as we are both still struggling the aftermath of leaving a very destructive church and abusive pastor. In the process, we were both betrayed in very evil ways by the pastor and by a church member.

This post is a definite keeper.

Pinkie Pie
12-09-2004, 02:04 PM
Hi Reg,

That was an excellent post. Like the others who posted, it sounded like what I have experienced time and again.

It raised one question for me, though. How does one "betray yourself?" That really got my interest, sometimes I wonder if I have betrayed myself. Does that mean, like, not setting proper boundaries with people, or something like that?

Florence
12-09-2004, 08:22 PM
Two weeks and the symptoms should be gone? I think that's being overly optimistic. I also don't think a counselor is a whole lot more than a "friend-for-hire" - unless a person truly has a medical reason, rather than a relational reason, for their "symptoms." I've even had a couple of counselor friends tell me that about all they do is listen. Unfortunately, too few people have a true friend that they can "unload" on and who will completely understand and support them and stick with them through thick and thin. How thankful I am that I have a friend like that.
Florence

OldEnt
12-10-2004, 09:03 AM
Two weeks and the symptoms should be gone? I think that's being overly optimistic. I also don't think a counselor is a whole lot more than a "friend-for-hire" - unless a person truly has a medical reason, rather than a relational reason, for their "symptoms." I've even had a couple of counselor friends tell me that about all they do is listen. Unfortunately, too few people have a true friend that they can "unload" on and who will completely understand and support them and stick with them through thick and thin. How thankful I am that I have a friend like that.
Florence

Florence,

The key is in the phrase "about all they do is listen..." For 25 years I gave monetary contributions to a church to support pastors who never really learned how to really "listen" to the people of the congregation. In "counseling" they were in a "fix it" mode... They were going to "fix" everybody's problems, but they never listened long enough to really understand what the real problems were.

In the upheavel of leaving that church, we started seeing a qualified Christian counselor. We paid... He listened.. Our marriage was healed and we're happier then we've ever been..... When we "paid" the pastors to listen, they didn't... When we paid the counselor, he did.... THAT'S NO SMALL THING..... IN FACT IT WAS A VITAl DIFFERENCE....

We got more for our money with the counselor then we ever did for all the money we gave that church.... Those pastors were not really there for us... They were there for themselves.... My two cents...

Love,

Old Ent

PS: I had an "Aunt Florence"... She was a real dear and we miss her now she is gone.... I can not help but think of her when I see your name.... :)

Florence
12-10-2004, 09:43 AM
Old Ent,
You captured what I was trying to say exactly! I guess I didn't spell it out very well, but what I was alluding to is that for most of us, if we only had a friend or two who would really listen and not judge and simply love us, support us, and encourage us - without trying to fix us - there wouldn't be such a tremendous need for "counselors."

Sometimes I wonder at the folks who are so longing to be heard - are they "listeners"? Do they make themselves available to simply listening, and not trying to fix anything and not spreading what they "hear"? Or are they so intent on being listened to that they can't hear anyone else?

In my experience, when I listen, that is when I am most "heard" and understood as someone who is loving, caring, considerate, and non-judgemental - just the kind of person I am looking for. And many times, that's when I discover those people who are just like me - who so need someone to listen and who understand my need to be heard. And, most amazingly, it's free!

Florence

Kerrin
12-11-2004, 05:23 AM
Old Ent,
You captured what I was trying to say exactly! I guess I didn't spell it out very well, but what I was alluding to is that for most of us, if we only had a friend or two who would really listen and not judge and simply love us, support us, and encourage us - without trying to fix us - there wouldn't be such a tremendous need for "counselors."

Sometimes I wonder at the folks who are so longing to be heard - are they "listeners"? Do they make themselves available to simply listening, and not trying to fix anything and not spreading what they "hear"? Or are they so intent on being listened to that they can't hear anyone else?

In my experience, when I listen, that is when I am most "heard" and understood as someone who is loving, caring, considerate, and non-judgemental - just the kind of person I am looking for. And many times, that's when I discover those people who are just like me - who so need someone to listen and who understand my need to be heard. And, most amazingly, it's free!

Florence
Absolutely Florence,
I found when i stopped "looking to be listened to, people started ro really open up to me as I listened to them, (that's not easy for a motor-mouth like me), however, you are right, listening is so important in the process of healing , together with being heard.
I am trusting God for that kind of friend soon, ;)
Kerrin

Reg
07-14-2009, 07:12 AM
In reviewing some of my older posts I came across this one. I tried to find where I got a lot of this info. I wanted to give credit to the source. I edited it to create a Problem - Solution Sheet for Celebrate Recovery at our church which I helped start. I wanted to move it in an area to help the Spiritually Abused. Betrayal is such a large part of what we had/have to deal with.

Here is an excellent link I found looking for the original source...

Healing and recovering from betrayal by a spiritual leader...

Reclaiming Your Spiritual Power
10 Ways to Lift Yourself Up When a Spiritual Leader Lets You Down
http://www.beliefnet.com/Holistic-Living/2006/11/Reclaiming-Your-Spiritual-Power.aspx

Also another good link and one I highly recommend.

How to Heal From Betrayal With Journaling
http://www.ehow.com/how_4553342_heal-betrayal-journaling.html