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Elisabeth
02-07-2007, 08:46 PM
Many, many people have been telling me that when I'm completely "healed" I will be able to hear my in-laws talking about their church and pastor without any bad feelings inside. :rolleyes:

Considering that the man not only used and abused me but also taught me so many things that were anti-God and anti-marriage, and considering what the bible says about false teachers, I would think that any kind of acceptance, even just listening to people saying he's a good pastor, is going on a slippery slope. :p I think I just need to avoid talk about him altogether, and let God judge if I'm being too sensitive, or whatever. Not my friends, family, or anyone else. Thoughts, people?

Jerry
02-07-2007, 09:22 PM
Many, many people have been telling me that when I'm completely "healed" I will be able to hear my in-laws talking about their church and pastor without any bad feelings inside. :rolleyes:


Dear Elisabeth,,,,
I don't see that ever happening.......However I think that as your "Self Esteem" returns to the level it belongs,you will begin to view this man as "Subhuman Vermin",not worth the effort of conscious thought ;)
Love Jerry

QueenKnitter
02-07-2007, 09:51 PM
absolutely impossible! of course you'll have those feelings!!! What's wrong with feelings anyway.

I have four children in Heaven. I will always feel sad and will always miss them. the only thing that has changed is that i have good ways of coping. but i'll still NEVER be able to walk into that same clinic again where we heard the horrible news about my daughter.

we're human. not robots!

qk

Voyager
02-07-2007, 10:56 PM
If you were abused by a police officer, you may have a difficult time hearing people say good things about police officers. This is a very normal reaction. When I hear people praise pastors as if they were infallible gods, I get nauseous.

:cool:

SpinningHead
02-08-2007, 07:29 AM
That's crap! Why would anybody feel fine and ok when they hear someone talking positvie about an abuser?? Would a child who was molested by their uncle feel fine and ok if they heard their parents talk about what a wonderful human being the uncle was???? Would someone tell that child they just need to get over it? it's in the past? oh, you're not healed enough?? you haven't given it fully over to God??? :mad:

Tell those many, many people they're full of crap and ignorant, and haven't the first clue of compassion and empathy...

know what???? now I'm pissed!!! Give me their numbers!!! I'll tell them!!! :mad:

Elisabeth, dear...you don't have to change what you experienced or how your process your pain or how healing comes to you one bit to please others or make others feel more "comfortable" with knowing what happened to you. If people can't empathize and have compassion for what you've gone through...you don't need them! ok???

mary
02-08-2007, 07:34 AM
Many, many people have been telling me that when I'm completely "healed" I will be able to hear my in-laws talking about their church and pastor without any bad feelings inside. :rolleyes:

Considering that the man not only used and abused me but also taught me so many things that were anti-God and anti-marriage, and considering what the bible says about false teachers, I would think that any kind of acceptance, even just listening to people saying he's a good pastor, is going on a slippery slope. :p I think I just need to avoid talk about him altogether, and let God judge if I'm being too sensitive, or whatever. Not my friends, family, or anyone else. Thoughts, people?

No! Absolutely not will you ever be able to hear your in-laws talking about this demon pastor and not have bad feelings. Those feelings show that you are one of the Lord's own. Only total and utter fleabrains (there's something else I could call them, but I don't want to "start anything" here :p ) would tell you otherwise.

Your moral compass and you were violated. There has been no repentance on his part. He is, as my husband characterized my old "pastor," a male animal. He defiles his pulpit every time he steps into it. He spits in God's eye by doing it. And what he does to the Lord's Supper every time he presides over that, I don't even want to think about. Absent full repentance and the Lord's will in saving him before he dies, he will face the full wrath of the completely holy God. I shudder to think about that.

I finally let the last person from my old church go about 10 days ago. Now there's no one from there with whom I'm still in contact. This definitely feels good! :D I wish you could do the same, but I know your circumstances are different.

I will keep you in prayer.

Love,

mary

InTheory
02-08-2007, 08:04 AM
Elisabeth-if anyone tells you again, tell them that Dan has a message (from the Lord) for them...BULLSHIT!!! :)

God bless you!!! :)

-Dan

jane
02-08-2007, 08:05 AM
Elizabeth-

THAT is another way to control you into submission and denial.

Trust me.

Been there. got that tshirt too........

again, the focus is on YOU GETTING OVER IT....and NOT THE ABUSER!

PLEASE......

they might as well give the pastor a license permitting him to do absolutely any thing that he wants to anyone he wants to....because he is a godly man

PUKE.

jane

ps I wouldn't let GOD rape me....and I am told that HE IS REALLY GODLY.

jane
02-08-2007, 08:08 AM
Considering that the man not only used and abused me but also taught me so many things that were anti-God and anti-marriage, and considering what the bible says about false teachers, I would think that any kind of acceptance, even just listening to people saying he's a good pastor, is going on a slippery slope. I think I just need to avoid talk about him altogether, and let God judge if I'm being too sensitive, or whatever. Not my friends, family, or anyone else. Thoughts, people?


I agree.

jane