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Voyager
11-19-2006, 01:43 AM
Well, for those of you who knew that I was going to a rehab for a month - I have some news. It didn't work out. It wasn't that the place was bad, and it wasn't that I am a faliure (because I am not), but it just wasn't the right time and place for me to be away from my family for 28 days.

I am not in denial. I know that sometimes I turn to things that are not healthy for me. But, I am not alone. Many of us turn to comfort foods, alcohol, prescription and/or street drugs, and other compulsive habits to try to make ourselves feel better. Obsessive compulsions are one of the biggest problems facing the human race. Right now I am not using anything, and I thank God for that.

I stayed at the rehab in the mountains for three days. It was a really nice place in Utah that many famous actors, artists, and celebrities have stayed at. Unfortunately I had a hard time sleeping because my roommate was a heavy snorer. After almost 60 hours of not sleeping, I bailed out. I signed myself out and caught the next flight to Saint Louis. I am still in Saint Louis now in a motel room as I write this (fortunately I got a good eight hours of sleep last night). I learned a lot about myself at the rehab in the almost three days that I stayed there, so I do not count the experience as a loss. I also learned a lot about what drives people to abuse alcohol, drugs, gambling, and other addictions.

As I saw the dynamics of the group sessions that I attended with the other residents, something started becoming very clear to me: People need community. I asked one of the counselors afterwards why he thought A.A. and other support groups are able to help people recover from addictions. He replied, "I don't really know, but it works. It seems like it is magic." Then I told him I thought I knew why they work, and he asked me to share it with him. I told him that I think people who abuse drugs and alcohol have a social need that is not being met in their life. They might have a family, but they may not feel that anyone in their family really needs them or even cares what they have to say. Or they may have family members who failed them due to trauma, addictions, death, divorce, etc. (this is actually the cause of codependency). In a support group, people listen to you. They act like they sincerely care for you. They encourage you without shaming or criticizing you, and they rely on you to do the same for them. When the needs for community are not being met in people, some of them turn to unhealthy addictions as a way to cope with this void (even unhealthy religious addictions).

Think about this: I went without drugs and alcohol for over 12 years while I was in my former church. After the church turned abusive and I left, I gradually turned back to drugs and alcohol to fill the void in my soul. Why did I do this? Was it because God abandoned me? I don't think so. However, I felt a big void return to my soul that sucked the life out of me. I no longer had the people around me who encouraged me and gave me a sense of purpose. Sure I still had my wife, but like I explained to her on the phone tonight - we are simply two small peices of a big puzzle. When we lost our support community, we lost the rest of the puzzle pieces. When we try to expect each other to become the missing pieces of the puzzle, we end up getting disappointed and feeling let down. We need the other pieces of the puzzle to make our lives complete.

Why are we even on this forum? Is it because we need a community of people to listen to us and encourage us? Is it so that we can feel like we have a purpose when we support and help one another overcome the wounds of our past? If all we need is God (as many would tell us), then why are we even here? For that matter, if all we need is God - why do people feel like they need a church? I conclude that the void many of us feel is due to the lack of community in our lives. Sure, we may have people around us, but are they really hearing what we have to say? Can we share our heart openly with them? Do they encourage us without shaming us or being critical? If not, then our emotional and social needs are not being met. Once people find other people that will be there for them in this capacity (such as a recovery group), the need for unhealthy addictions goes away - along with the feeling of void in our souls.

After going to this rehab for almost three days, I have decided that I still haven't found what I am looking for (I love that song!). So, my wife and I are going to start a recovery group. It's not going to be like regular 12-step groups where individuals meet for an hour to share their problems and leave. We are going to make it a full-package deal for the entire family. We're planning to buy or rent a facility and setup card and game tables for the adults, a free arcade room for the kids, a workout room so that members can get fit and healthy, talent nights for the kids, karaoke nights, potluck dinners, and the whole nine yards. But there is one thing that will be missing: Organized religion. There won't be anyone getting shamed and manipulated from the pulpit. There won't be any man-made doctrines and rules for people to obey. And most of all, there will not be an authoritarian dictator for people to worship!

Please pray for us as we embark on this endeavor. It's actually something that we have discussed doing for a few years now, and we decided today that we going for it. As many of you know who have worked or invested yourselves in churches, it won't be easy getting everyone on the same page. But what will be nice is that we won't be arguing about religious doctrines because there simply won't be any to argue about! Of course, it goes without saying that there won't be any drinking or drugs allowed in the club/organization. I realize that some people may be able to drink socially, but some cannot without becoming alcoholics, so we won't be serving alcohol. One of the focuses of the group will be to abstain from unhealthy addictions (and help others who struggle with them to do the same), but no one will be excommunicated if they don't (as long as they don't start trouble for the group).

I've always lived by the motto that where there is a will, there is a way. If something is missing in our life and we cannot find it anywhere else, God has given us the ability to create something out of nothing. We are going to create the solution for our own need, and in doing so, we will be able to do the same for many other people who were either burned by a church, are struggling with addictions, or simply want a place to go and hang out and find friends without having to go to a bar, a casino, or a church.

Anyway, I am back now. God bless all of you in your voyage through recovery!!!

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clementine
11-19-2006, 02:56 AM
Voyager,
I just read your post and was really touched by it. I don't suffer from any addictions myself but have been in enough situations to understand how they can happen. I totally agree with your idea about community. It's so true... We've just lost a whole community through SA and you'd think we wouldn't want anymore of it. Strange thing is, we crave it (and yet we're terrified of it). And a family unit isn't enough...you're right. God created us to live in community. We need to pray for and create communities that are safe. Thanks for posting this. It's a huge challenge for all of us having come out of abusive situations. You are so brave to confront this. I hope and pray that God will continue to guide you with his vision for the recovery centre. I hope and pray for his strength to get you through this difficult time.
Grace and peace to you,
Clementine:)

Voyager
11-19-2006, 09:59 AM
Thanks Clementine.

I've found that many times people seek a replacement family for their own dysfunctional families (which is what both my wife and I did). The problem is that many times we end up in dysfunctional church familes. Then after we leave, we have no functional family to return to (or we cut them off due to the cultic rules of the dysfunctional church).

Most married couples end up having at least some type of functional family on one side or the other to lean on for support, but that is not the case with my wife and I. Her dad was an alcoholic and so was mine. They both messed up our entire families. My brother and dad are in prison, and my wife's dad spent time in prison. Because of this we don't have any grandparents, uncles, aunts, or cousins to offer our two young daughters. We don't want to pass on the dysfunction to our children, but we need a support system to be able to do this. I'm not a big fan of Hillary Clinton, but one thing she said that I agree with is this: It takes a community. (She may have been quoting someone else, I'm not sure.)

Everyone here may not agree with my perceptions on this issue, and that's okay. I am just trying to do what I feel is best for my family.

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InTheory
11-19-2006, 11:25 AM
I appreciate your transparency and willingness to share, Voyager.
Gee, I'd love to be part of the community you're starting! Wish you were in my neck of the woods.

Go for it, and don't let anyone talk to you out of your plans!

Keep us posted!

-Dan

renee nelson
11-19-2006, 01:55 PM
[QUOTE=Voyager;
I asked one of the counselors afterwards why he thought A.A. and other support groups are able to help people recover from addictions. He replied, "I don't really know, but it works. It seems like it is magic." :[/QUOTE]

I think that the reason 12 step programs work is because the 12 steps are biblical and they are all of the opposite actions/mind-set of the addict mind-set/actions. Does that make sense? Like step 1 Admiited we were powerless... an addict always tries to control, rather than admit he/she is powerless.
Also the 12 step group I go to helps me stay out of denial. Because I used to fall into denial and think that I could just have a little rum and eggnog for the holidays and then, BOOM!!!!! I'd be back to a place of horrendous bondage again. Just my opinions/experience:)

Voyager
11-19-2006, 02:59 PM
I think my biggest problems after leaving the abusive church have been my tendency to withdraw and isolate. The addictions were only fueling this behavior. It got so bad a few weeks ago that I decided to try the rehab out of desperation. I had become stuck in isolation and became very unproductive. I have been able to stop taking pain pills numerous times in the past (I only took small doses to take the edge off of my internal grief), but since I haven't found a support group, I end up going back on them.

I know that the recovery group principle works because it worked for me when I was in a church. Churches and recovery groups work on basically the same premise - they provide a supportive community of people who are not using drugs or alcohol (for the most part), and the strength of the group's resolve to do so is imparted to the new members.

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ex-shep
11-19-2006, 03:21 PM
It is a hackneyed expression which drive many a member back to their groups when I say it. "There is no such thing as a Lone Ranger christian." Of course the evangelist for our group had to mention that even the Lone Ranger had Tanto.

There is an element of truth there. I cannot work my recovery alone. I need the forum, my 12 step groups, and, comforatbly for me, church. Of course we have members who are understandably churched out. Nevertheless community is still needed.

Good point and good share.

Willow
11-19-2006, 04:01 PM
Voyager... welcome back!

Bummer that the recovery retreat didn't work out, but sounds like you have come back stronger and with a plan! I'm thrilled that your wife is with you on this too.

I'm just wondering if you get a refund for the days you don't do the retreat???

Voyager
11-19-2006, 04:19 PM
Voyager... welcome back!

Bummer that the recovery retreat didn't work out, but sounds like you have come back stronger and with a plan! I'm thrilled that your wife is with you on this too.

I'm just wondering if you get a refund for the days you don't do the retreat???
Yes, I got back $34,000.00 of the $38,000.00 cost. I figure that money would be better spent on a recovery program that would serve myself and others for the long-term.The refund I received should be enough to secure a leased facility and furnish it with everything that I outlined above.

Nothing against rehab centers, but several of the people who were at the place I went to said they were on their second and third stint in rehab. This is probably because they are not getting their recovery needs met in their own community. If I invested the money I would have spent on a plush 28-day rehab into a multi-faceted recovery program for my local community, it would be a much wiser investment. I don't really need a short-term rehab as much as I need a long-term support group.

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Willow
11-19-2006, 06:09 PM
Super... I'm really looking forward to hearing of the progress of the center. It might be the start of something new that could work in other areas! Hey... ya'll could even have family movie nights!

Sheep
11-19-2006, 09:42 PM
Yes, Voyager, the "community of geese" analogy comes to mind again! I wish I knew how to navigate this forum and find it, but alas I am pretty computer illiterate! It's interesting that you and your wife are being drawn to do this.

Sheep :)

Carmen
11-20-2006, 04:43 AM
Wishing you and you wife all the best for the group! :) Wish I could be there too.

I just saw a tv show about the "natural drugs" the body produces, like endorphins. They said that drugs like morophine target the same receptors in the brain. Natural ways to release "happy feeling endorphins" were sex, sports, eating (not too much of course), meditation or prayer, and, not surprisingly, spending time with good friends.

SueJean
11-20-2006, 06:34 AM
Voyager, thank you for sharing. I agree whole-heartedly about community. I have found this to be true & the 12 Step program meets the requirement. At the moment, I'm just attending meetings. Calling people...sigh...especially women...I shudder when I even think about it. May your project succeed.

Voyager
11-20-2006, 08:05 AM
I just saw a tv show about the "natural drugs" the body produces, like endorphins. They said that drugs like morophine target the same receptors in the brain. Natural ways to release "happy feeling endorphins" were sex, sports, eating (not too much of course), meditation or prayer, and, not surprisingly, spending time with good friends.
Great post Carmen. This is one of the reasons I want to add a fitness training area to the recovery program. When I was at the rehab in Utah they had a gym that no one was using. The first night there I couldn't sleep and I felt really stressed out, so I went into the gym and worked out. Afterwards my stress was gone and I felt great! It actually felt like a "high" because of the endorphin release. If people could get high by working out instead of using drugs, their health would get much better. One of the reasons people use drugs and alcohol is due to stress, and if they learn that they can overcome their stress in a natural way they could get rid of their substance abuse problems.

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DiligentLily
11-22-2006, 08:35 AM
Welcome back, Voyager! I wish you and your wife the very best in this new ministry. It sounds absolutely wonderful. My husband and I have been kicking around the idea of some kind of support group in our area, too. Not for addictions, because that's not what we got hit with, but for refugees from abusive churches. There are a lot of them in my area.

Please keep us posted about it, so we can know how to pray.

Reg
11-23-2006, 04:53 AM
John,

This was a very important post to me. It gave me a similar idea of starting a support group in my area. It may not happen for awhile. I have to wind down my business so that I won't be encumbered. I have to focus. I have already discussed this with one of my very good friends here. He is onboard for the idea.

If you didn't post this I would not have come up with the idea.

I will keep you posted when it happens. I think that something really good is going to come from this.

Thanks again for this idea.

Go for it man! :D