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Voyager
11-14-2006, 12:05 PM
I'm going to be gone for about a month, and I didn't want anyone to think I was leaving the forum.

It's been eight years since I left my spiritually abusive church. Since I am self-employed, I have a luxury that many people don't have: I have been able to withdraw from society. This has not been a healthy thing for me. I used to be an outgoing person who thrived around people. Cutting myself off from people has been similar to cutting myself off from food.

I found a place in the mountains that I am going to stay at for 28 days. It is somewhat of a high-priced rehab. I quit drinking over three months ago, but I still have a lot of issues that are trying to drive me to abuse substances again. The place I am going to is rated in the top-10 best facilities of its kind in the world. I am lucky to be able to go there. It's going to cost a lot, but based on the state of mind I have been in, it will be worth every penny. This place is going to force me to get up in the mornings, get around people in groups, talk with therapists, go mountain hiking, do rope climbing, and all kinds of interaction with people that have faced similar addiction issues.

Today I was having cold feet, but my wife encouraged me to go. She has seen my slow descent from a fun-loving people-person to an isolated, angry, addicted victim. This was not a choice I made. It happened due to the spiritual abuse we suffered. However, I cannot live my life this way any longer. This is not who I am. I just need some outside help to become the person that I was again. God knows I have tried to do it on my own, but I can't. It's not healthy to close the door to the rest of mankind, but when we are hurting from wounds that the people we trusted inflicted upon us, that is exactly what we want to do.

I've got a new perception on life now. I believe that we all create negative or positive energy by the thoughts we think and the words we speak (which is a Biblical concept). Our focus can either be on what happened to us yesterday, or on the good that tomorrow will bring for us. However, when we get victimized, our natural tendency is to live in the past - and this is what makes us get "stuck". I have tried on my own for the last few weeks to live by this philosophy, but I am still stuck in wounds from my past. I need outside help to get me unstuck.

I'll be away from the computer for a whole month, but I will let you know how things went when I get back. My heart and prayers will be with you, my friends.

:cool:

Jo Jo
11-14-2006, 12:32 PM
I will miss you Voyager and will be praying for you and thinking about you. May God meet your in your lovely cabin. Honestly I'm freakin' jealous! I know this will be a special time for you.

Reg
11-14-2006, 01:16 PM
Sounds like a great place John. Have a profitable time.

Also sounds like a place Jeff sends people to on the A & E show "Interventions". :)

Tell us how it went when you return.

beginagainrose
11-14-2006, 03:07 PM
I dont know you very well, but I am incredibly proud of you for taking a huge step like this... you must have an awesome wife as well. Please know, and let her know, I will be praying for both of you every day for this 30 days or so until you come back "home"... God bless you and take this step... of great faith!:)

butterfly
11-14-2006, 05:40 PM
Thank you for sharing with us Voyager.

It means alot to me. I do get blessings from your posts. Even if I don't reply I do read them.

I know how the isolating from people feels. I am there now!!!

I just have been hurt once to many times and I can"t bear another hurt.:(

I am glad you are taking care of yourself.:D I am glad to hear your wife understands. :D

I will be praying for you. I do off and on anyways because I do think how you are doing.

I pray you will get the help you need and the abilty to get yourself out of isolation.:D
butterfly shirley

Willow
11-14-2006, 06:15 PM
Hey Voyager.... more power to you!
I think this is a huge step in the right direction!
I'm very impressed!

renee nelson
11-14-2006, 06:31 PM
[QUOTE=Voyager God knows I have tried to do it on my own, but I can't.

Your already on your way to recovery!!!! "I can't" is the first step to wholeness.
I couldn't do it on my own either, but God certainly can do for us what we cannot do for ourself:) He has helped me stay clean for 15 years. And He definitely uses other people "iron sharpens iron" I go to 12 step groups every week.
May God meet you where you are, love, accept you and encourage you to be all that He intended when He created you.

hornblower
11-14-2006, 09:02 PM
Voyager I am so sorry please forgive me for my terrible lapse I had last night. I hope you didnt read it and let it trigger you. I had no idea anyone that was here was struggling with this I should have been a lot more aware.
Its probably been about that long for me too since my abuse so its high time I started getting on with it. Ive been stuck here alone for way too long!

We ARE doing well. One step at a time. I too get stuck too but gradually it will fade. God is our victory, He is our power. My Stephens minister is helping me so much, encouraging me, and the gentle but firm pushes from God get it all going. The attacks are coming now as my councelor today reminded me that the enemy attacks strong when we start on our way, trying to undermine us and our journeys with our faithful God.

Be strong my friend and know that He is our God and He will always be there when we turn to Him as you already know.
We all will keep you in prayer and remember we love you and are thinking of you. I will miss you voyager.

I was astounded the other day when I read that God raises us up with the same power that He raised up Christ from the dead. Considering where Jesus was i would say that was a fair amount of power right? It is ours In Christ!

Theodora
11-14-2006, 09:48 PM
Every blessing to you as you leave on this "retreat." This sounds SO positive!.....Know that you and yours will be in my prayers. THANKS so much for letting us know what you were doing. I WOULD have wondered.

Hang in there....and "trust the process." Will be looking forward to hearing from you again.

Theodora



I'm going to be gone for about a month, and I didn't want anyone to think I was leaving the forum.

It's been eight years since I left my spiritually abusive church. Since I am self-employed, I have a luxury that many people don't have: I have been able to withdraw from society. This has not been a healthy thing for me. I used to be an outgoing person who thrived around people. Cutting myself off from people has been similar to cutting myself off from food.

I found a place in the mountains that I am going to stay at for 28 days. It is somewhat of a high-priced rehab. I quit drinking over three months ago, but I still have a lot of issues that are trying to drive me to abuse substances again. The place I am going to is rated in the top-10 best facilities of its kind in the world. I am lucky to be able to go there. It's going to cost a lot, but based on the state of mind I have been in, it will be worth every penny. This place is going to force me to get up in the mornings, get around people in groups, talk with therapists, go mountain hiking, do rope climbing, and all kinds of interaction with people that have faced similar addiction issues.

Today I was having cold feet, but my wife encouraged me to go. She has seen my slow descent from a fun-loving people-person to an isolated, angry, addicted victim. This was not a choice I made. It happened due to the spiritual abuse we suffered. However, I cannot live my life this way any longer. This is not who I am. I just need some outside help to become the person that I was again. God knows I have tried to do it on my own, but I can't. It's not healthy to close the door to the rest of mankind, but when we are hurting from wounds that the people we trusted inflicted upon us, that is exactly what we want to do.

I've got a new perception on life now. I believe that we all create negative or positive energy by the thoughts we think and the words we speak (which is a Biblical concept). Our focus can either be on what happened to us yesterday, or on the good that tomorrow will bring for us. However, when we get victimized, our natural tendency is to live in the past - and this is what makes us get "stuck". I have tried on my own for the last few weeks to live by this philosophy, but I am still stuck in wounds from my past. I need outside help to get me unstuck.

I'll be away from the computer for a whole month, but I will let you know how things went when I get back. My heart and prayers will be with you, my friends.

:cool:

Satscout
11-14-2006, 10:12 PM
What a cool Christmas present for your wife...

By the time you get back, refreshed and in a better state of mind, you will have more to give to your relationships - like that awesome wife of yours and your kids. Courage, dear heart. Looking forward to seeing you back.

jimsmuse
11-15-2006, 11:03 AM
God be with you and your wife Voyager, I am looking forward to hearing what you have to share when you get back......

Sheep
11-15-2006, 12:02 PM
Good for you, Voyager! Your wife sounds very supportive. Wasn't it you that posted about the geese? *honk, honk* Looking forward to hearing from you after you return...

Sheep :)

Zoe
11-15-2006, 04:57 PM
(((Voyager))) :)