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Willow
11-09-2004, 06:29 PM
This is not a new topic for me to write about. Forgive me if it becomes redundant. A number of the members of the group I was with are like me... aging and never married. I can't help but believe that the cult involvement had something to do with it. Have any of you here noticed a larger than normal sector of your former groups who are still single. I notice it especially among women, but know of a few men too. Maybe it's that the cult involvement took so much of our time in early adulthood that we didn't have time to find a mate while we were young and pliable. Or... maybe the deception by a male leader tainted our view on all male leadership. Or... maybe the strict rules separating males from females in the congregation had something to do with it. Maybe we even carried the separation into our post-cult lives. Or.... maybe the submission doctrine scared some of us away from giving away our personal power and independence. I have a male friend who attributes his homosexual dysfunction to the notion emblazened on the young men that women were the devil in a skirt. He developed a disdain and aversion to females due to this teaching.

On another note... I've had a really wild summer. I surrendered my virginity at age 42. Caught a scare of possibly being pregnant.... then another scare of possibly being infected with an STD. None of the above were true, but that is how freaked out I was about even trying to date and how to do it and how to stand up to the pressure to be physically involved... especially when it went against everything I was taught about purity and abstinance. I know everyone has an opinion about this stuff. However... I'm on a journey. I'm going "THROUGH" something. I won't stay here. It's almost as though I had to backtrack in order to get to the place of true adulthood. My therapist said it's like I'm going through my teen years in an adult body. I have experimented with alcohol and hung around places I would have avoided previously. Places like biker bars and local pubs and new age drum circles. It's truly been freaky. None of those things are me, but I had to check them out. I had run so hard away from anything that didn't have the label "christian" on it. I just wanted to see what people are like on the other side of the church wall.

I guess that's my check in. Feedback is welcome, but try to leave the "shoulds" at the doorstep.

Much love to you all,

Willow

Jerry
11-09-2004, 10:53 PM
Willow,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,You Nut!!!!!!, :D :rolleyes: ,,,,,,Welcome Home :D
Love Jerry

Willow
11-10-2004, 05:26 AM
Heya Jerry :p

Good to see ya man!

Hope 98
11-10-2004, 08:06 AM
Willow - Thank you for your openness and honesty about all of that here!

I surely don't have any shoulds or shouldn'ts for you, and I don't think I know how to explain the connection between your "confession" and things in my life, but you've given me some reassurance.

Bless you!

Hope

Willow
11-10-2004, 10:16 AM
I'm happy that my telling of the truth helps you Hope :)
I don't consider what I shared a confession per say, but kind of like a telling of where I have been, where I am at, and where I am going... etc. I feel kinda like I'm outside of my life observing sometimes. Weird feeling!

Jerry
11-12-2004, 02:08 AM
I feel kinda like I'm outside of my life observing sometimes. Weird feeling!
Yup,,,,,,I was just lookin at the guy in the mirror yesterday morning.I said,,,,I think I am "Skitzo"!!!,,,,,He answered,,,,,"Me Too !!!!! " :eek:
:D Jerry :D

Voyager
11-12-2004, 08:02 AM
I had run so hard away from anything that didn't have the label "christian" on it. I just wanted to see what people are like on the other side of the church wall.

I find myself doing the same thing Willow. What's sad is that there are really no "good people" groups out there that I can find except for churches. Since we are short on family support for our kids, I would love to find a group of people to join who just love each other, have good morals, and don't play authoritarian games. But I can't find anything. The churches seem to have a monopoly on this type of group.

The problem is, I cannot stomach the idea of returning to a church. To me, it would be like going back to prison. I lost so much when I left the last one that I cannot fathom trying that again. In addition, I would probably be triggered everytime they read from the Old Testament. I just cannot believe that stuff about hell and judgement anymore. I know people say it's true, but I would never pour gasoline on my kids and light a match if they disobeyed, and I cannot believe that God would either.

There is a lot of stuff that I just cannot believe anymore. I guess you could call me "doubting Voyager".

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