effects of code-wording...

[overcomer]

i know i have been abused, spiritually abused. they have used coding on me so much now that i am hyper-sensitized to everything, and i don't trust anything or anyone at all, no one except my husband and my son and the Word of God, the pure word of God, and just a few friends.

even when i just checked the posts, and i looked back at my own original post, i saw my user name in bold red, and i knew i hadn't typed or formatted it that way.

i have since calmed as i figured out this is all new formatting in the forum itself, and when i cleared my messages, it went back to normal - am i understanding this right???? is this what it does???

but i panicked, thinking they had broken in again. and that was such an example of how i feel they are after me. i felt somebody had hacked into my posts and was mocking me, boldly saying 'sure you are an overcomer - quite an overcomer with all that fear in there???...sure you are...we know who you are and we're going to tell him what you're doing...what you are saying about him...we're going to ream you good - after all the Dr. knows everything about you.'

in my fears, i feel like they are hacking into my computer and watching me. and that is not from God. surely this is not truth, but from the things i know they have done, the coding, endless coding, and now i must be decoded.

they have stolen some personal writings from last year, and they are now acting them out for themselves. trying to tell me that i am bad, i am bad, i am bad. but it is stolen information, and it is satan who steals, kills and destroys. what they are doing is not of God.

but God is in control, and He has a plan in place, and He will cause His people to pray and to be called by HIS name, and not another's. He will humble us as we pray and seek His face and turn from our wicked ways, for THEN He will hear from heaven, forgive our sins, and heal our land.

[butterfly]

Hi Overcomer,

There is a new look here on the forum.
I am not sure after you delete your messages what it does.

It is all new to us. Maybe someone here can help you.

I just wanted to let you know yes there is a new look.

I hope you can feel safe here. I so understand about the coding.:mad: :mad:
It is sure hard to decode.

I hope you feel safer now. butterfly shirely

[overcomer]

Hi Overcomer,

There is a new look here on the forum.
I am not sure after you delete your messages what it does.

It is all new to us. Maybe someone here can help you.

I just wanted to let you know yes there is a new look.

I hope you can feel safe here. I so understand about the coding.:mad: :mad:
It is sure hard to decode.

I hope you feel safer now. butterfly shirely

there is a quiet 'my, my' in my soul and on my lips that expresses a calming in me just now as i read this. thank you butterfly shirley.

shirley doesn't realize how much she follows the Spirit of the Living God as she replied in simple obedience to speak comforting words to me, words from the heart of God.

for she has no idea that it was through the image of a butterfly that the Lord spoke to me earlier today.

there was no manipulation or word-coding.

and so thank you again, butterfly shirley, for making me feel safe within His cocoon, in His sanctuary, until the season of wings.

[butterfly]

:D :D

Thank you Overcomer

:D :D :D No I had no Idea about your Butterfly blessing.

I also recive blessings from God in the same way you were blessed today.

The Lord uses nature and people to show me. Here I am Shirley I am real.

You know they are from God because it is only you and Him who knows what is going on.:D :D :D

I am glad you were felling safer. butterfly shirley

[hornblower]

there is a quiet 'my, my' in my soul and on my lips that expresses a calming in me just now as i read this. thank you butterfly shirley.

shirley doesn't realize how much she follows the Spirit of the Living God as she replied in simple obedience to speak comforting words to me, words from the heart of God.

for she has no idea that it was through the image of a butterfly that the Lord spoke to me earlier today.

there was no manipulation or word-coding.

and so thank you again, butterfly shirley, for making me feel safe within His cocoon, in His sanctuary, until the season of wings.

forgive me for asking if its painful to talk about but what is word -coding? what is that?

[Carmen]

((((Overcomer)))),

I can empathize. Not long after I got here I was afraid that the pastor that SA'd me would find my identity here, someone very similar to him (or him) was sending me nasty emails at another forum and the address from this one was posted there for a short time. I know the panic feeling. Mine diminished over time and yours probably will too. Sometimes I was afraid if I'd meet him in a store, so avoided shopping in that whole area. I think I could face him now, but am not 100% certain of what I would say or do.

I think you are right, the fear doesn't come from God, but it doesn't go away overnight, it will take time. Just try to calm down and put your mind on something else. Don't berate yourself or pressure yourself. Take it easy one day at a time.

[overcomer]

forgive me for asking if its painful to talk about but what is word -coding? what is that?

what i've experienced:

one form of word-coding / code-wording would be like if you wrote to your pastor or someone who is influenced by him, and he subtly quotes what you say in a sermon, emphasizing your words, but adding a threat or a twist to it.

another form is when he manipulates other people to speak other 'code-words' in front of you, so you will feel controlled. like everybody is against you. like you better straighten up because if you don't agree with the pastor, then YOU are the problem, and WE ALL are against you.

code-wording will also include tecniques, (? - however you spell that word) of shunning and secretive rules like "don't talk to her (or him)", or "just keep them at a distance." "i'll handle her questions from the pulpit". this actually is to control the earshot of those who are swimming along in his righteous cause of shaming you and silencing you. it's so no one will get the whole story, he'll keep it controlled to the best of HIS image.

it would also be like if when i saw what you had posted, i would begin saying things about 'satan's horns', about 'some people are all hot air'. i would read all negative scriptures that had to do with your name, or whatever else i knew about you or what you said. if i thought you heard something i didn't want you to hear, i'd use the word 'deaf' as often as i could whenever you were around, or when i wrote something publicly, using another reference that literally called attention to you, so others would be swayed in a certain direction of opinion about you.

it has many, many avenues, all of the aforementioned have been used upon me the past several years. i never knew they existed in 'the church'. but they are certainly being used.

it is a mind-control tecnique. still not sure how to spell that word, but maybe it's for the best.

[Jerry]

See the problem is that most "Pastors" don't have any idea what a "Pastor " is.........They think that the "Pastor" is the leader............NO WAY !!!!! The "Pastor" is supposed to be like the old wise sheep-dog.......Watching out for the sheep so they are free to graze wherever they will,,,,only springing into action when there is a wolfs ass to kick :D .............Yes I could tell them what to believe ,,,,,,,but that takes away the joy of self discovery,,,,,it is much better to witness their celebration of new found knowledge :D
Love Jerry

[Carmen]

Oooh! That code-wording can be really subtle. I am sure that many that experience it might think they are imagining it. Others would say they were paranoid. Questioning one's perceptiveness can freeze a person in the situation. They learn to accept other's projections of what they are supposed to be and learn to ignore their own real self and intuition that tells them something in the situation is not quite right. If they are not sure that they are being manipulated, or feel that the admonishing manipulation is supposed to be good for them, then they don't make a move to get out of the situation. Some would feel that so many coincidences referring to their situation must mean that they have the wrong attitude and should conform. Some think it is God trying to point them in the "right" direction. If I hadn't experienced it all myself I wouldn't believe it, but I have and so I do. Nasty stuff!

[Anna Marta]

OMG - we have been code-worded! :mad: :mad: :mad:

The last time we were at church, and I emphasize the word LAST (meaning never again)! :D The sermon was pointedly directed at us. Steinar picked it up and was ticked. I picked up and thought - "geeze this guy is pointing out his own behavior." Our friends called later and asked if we had gotten the point :cool: - cause they sure did.

Now our friends are being deluged with text messages asking if they are okay when they haven't been at church. :confused: And we women, for the 1st time, are being invited to have lunch with pastor's and elder's wives. :confused:

We are now able to sit back and observe the reactive/defensive happenings. They are circling the wagons as if they have been attacked, when in fact, I am the one who was been called on the carpet and Steinar just wanted a clarification for what I did. Talk about a storm, stirred up! This may be a tsunami of their own making. I am feeling safe well out of the danger zone. With every person they approach to discover what we have said, they will dig their grave a bit deeper as they have to answer why they want to know. We haven't been talking! :D

Their paranoia playing itself out is educational to watch.
Anna Marta

[ex-shep]

See the problem is that most "Pastors" don't have any idea what a "Pastor " is.........They think that the "Pastor" is the leader............NO WAY !!!!! The "Pastor" is supposed to be like the old wise sheep-dog.......Watching out for the sheep so they are free to graze wherever they will,,,,only springing into action when there is a wolfs ass to kick :D .............Yes I could tell them what to believe ,,,,,,,but that takes away the joy of self discovery,,,,,it is much better to witness their celebration of new found knowledge :D
Love Jerry

Fortunately that is the model in the church I go to. It was also that way at the Methodist church previously. I really get irritated when Tammy, duck a confrontation, by referring everything to the elders. I am sure that will work real well on the great judgement day. I thought we were to work out our own salvation.

On the coding, its is maddening. It works on subconsciencious level. I have to repgrogram myself to when I recognize the old cult talk creeping in. I have had to say, "That was then. This is now. These beliefs are no longer relevent and do not have a place in my life anymore". Until the old tapes fade out, one is left with the feeling that the services of a barber or hair stylest are temporarily not needed.

[overcomer]

yes, i'm so sorry to say that once it's been ingrained as a way of life, a way to know they are saying 'you're in for it' and then 'you're okay for now' from the pulpit, all in hidden ways, then you get used to it in your mind.
it's a programming, horrible programming.

then..it becomes a way of communication, and you end up using it a few times yourself - unless you nip it, "just nip it in the bud, andy."...

goodness, i can't believe i've still got a sense of humor. :)

but i do.

because i know that beneath all this pain, there is somehow love.

there's somehow a sovereign God with a sovereign plan.

i know my heart, but God knows it more, the depths of it, and He will heal this pain.

it started a long, long time ago. not just with this situation i'm in right now.

God will heal and He will be glorified, and I will not fight His plans for me or for my brother.

so, dear brother dr., a message for you. (ya'll excuse my rambling, but this is good for me.) remember that He who began a good work in you will complete it until the day of Jesus Christ. no weapon formed against you will prosper. and, no weapon formed against me will prosper. we will get through this by the mercies of God.

the greatest gift is love.

the greatest gift is love.

the Blood of Jesus was shed for both you and i, and the enemy of our souls will some day be defeated, and we will be at peace.

you are my brother, and though i see many things that have hurt me, you've done many things to hurt me and torture me, all the things i talked to you about in private, you used it all against me at the drop of a fearful hat.

but maybe you've seen many things in your life that have hurt you. maybe somebody did that to you.

but times are a'changing, and these days are the days of His returning.

and we are joined in Christ and somehow there is a greater plan unfolding.

i've gone half way before, and you really didn't budge, you kept your image clean and left me to all the blame in the misunderstanding. i stayed quiet. still have really stayed quiet, i'm sort of programmed that way - remember? not by you originally as you did the coding threats, but by a greater plan of God, in His design of me. He formed my inward parts, He knew this was coming.

I'm trusting God, but sometimes still i'm falling apart inside.

-for some reason, i'm not right now. must be God.

strength comes, and it's a beautiful day. it must be faith.

somehow we are in the same body of Christ.

okay, focus, focus, focus on other things, good things, fun things, light things.

light things, light things. life things, normal life things in this serious world, serious times we live in.
let's press into joy.

it's nice outside. taking a walk now with that little dog of mine - you know the one, the little guy.

what a little muttenhead, smotey, whoo-dad mcNabb, distant cousin to the ballplayer, you know.
and his big shot daddyJ, (hubby) tells him so.

and vice versa, likewise, so forth and so on and on and on. ya'll should hear the conversations around this place between the two of them.

little guy here and hubby fight over who's the chief around the house, but hubby has won, since little guy can't come upstairs anymore. has all the downstairs though to roam and roll on the carpet though. rolls like crazy after his bath. crazy, crazy dog. thank you for him, Lord, thank you Lord, for joy.

WELL, okay. so i'm in a lighter mood now. want to stay that way.
we do have a fun house here, and it all brings me such joy.
so thankful for the little things.

a cure for decoding is: JOY.

the Joy of the Lord is my strength. so let it rise.

thankful for the little blessings of LIFE.

LIFE in Christ.

let it rise.

let the glory of the LORD rise among us, let it rise.

let the Song of the Lord, rise among us.

let is rise. oh let it rise.

Let Him rise.

[hornblower]

wow I have never heard of this happening before. It makes me wonder. What a perverted generation would do such a thing, (as codewording) would even think of doing such a thing to anyone!

Being here has opened up my eyes to things that have happened a long time ago. Long before this place happened there was SA........its been happening for ............forever, maybe.

It has occured to me this weekend that Jesus hung on that cross and do we stop talking about what He went through? Is it a secret? Its even written in the psalms what He suffered for all generations to know how He felt as He hung there with every bone out of joint, his garments being divided among them, heads from passers by wagging, "He says He is a king (or the son of God)so why doesnt He come down from there? Wait lets see if His Father comes to get Him or the angels come?"
Who put Him there?
The leaders of religion.

He forgave them one and all but does that mean that they know Him and are forgiven? No.
He is still there suffering for them to come to Him but He cannot be anyone else but who He is, the son of God. He cannot let go and change to become like them He has to remain true to Himself and be who He is. The reality of God in man, He is Jesus the Christ.
Now He prays constantly waiting for His enemies to be made a footstool at His feet.
He does not come off of the cross to man.........He invites man to come to Him where He is.
He was and is our picture of victimization. He was the ultimate victim of all time being completely innocent and yet it still happened to Him......all of that pain.
He is our advocate.

God bless each of you.

[Carmen]

Overcomer, did you get the term code-wording out of a book? If so, could you please write which one and if it is worth reading?

[Reg]

Here is a thread that is a form of word-coding.

Commonly Used Church Terms And Their Meanings

http://www.christianrecovery.com/vb/showthread.php?t=1819&page=2

[hornblower]

oh gosh reg that is so sad.