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recoveringhurt
09-09-2006, 08:55 PM
DD was wavering but started a notebook on the pastor listing on one page each time he gave wrong council the listing the consequences of that council. She was really opening her eyes and sounded good. I felt she was back on track. Shes been in Word a lot--always a good thing.

She shared how reading the story of Moses to the children helped her so much. She related to Moses leaving Egypt after murdering an Egyptian--that Moses probably felt a lot of guilt in the desert but God had bigger plans...I felt great. She even said she gave her hubby the Spiritual Abuse book I sent--whoo whoo...
BUT
...today I talked to DD hubby. :mad: I asked what he thought of the book--"well..OUR church is not like that." he says. "Our pastor is having a problem but he is not abusive. The punishment he gave was too harsh and he has a problem with money but I'm not going to let things like that separate me from the church I love and all they have done for me" he said, "We'll go back and confront the pastor about the issues and we will return."

AACCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!! !!!!!

You could have knocked me over with cult breath.

Tongiht, I pulled out my codependent books. I am the poster child of codependency. And from what I read DD and hubby are big time codependents. I ordered and shiped them a book on Christian codependancy--they are in so much denial tey have to see why they are the way they are before they can see how sick the pastor is.

Anyway, I wrote them a long letter here is a portion


In a sentence: Co-dependants try hard to please, rescue, and serve others, but the harder they try, the less peace of mind, intimacy, and joy they receive for their efforts.

Untangling Relationships (the book I’m sending you) helps people understand co-dependency and identify patterns of thinking, feelings, and acting. For me it was the beginning of a healing process that brought me to a place with a clear sense of identity and healthy balanced view of the Lordship of Christ build on the unconditional love of God. I realized many of my perceptions were of kilter and how to grow through the grief to ultimately bring glory to Christ. The main focus of this study is unlearning negative things about your self (failure and rejection) and focusing on how to relate to hurting and difficult people in your life according to the Bible.

This book is my effort to help. Giving you a biblical effective basis for growing and recovering from some of the trauma I helped to create. If I only pass on one thing to my children in my life I want it to be-- not just a belief in God --but to have them understand that God unconditionally loves and accepts them as they are. That’s why Christ died. We are forgiven!

You two are getting ready to try to redeem a relationship with someone that hurt your family deeply. You need to be prepared for your fight is not with weapons of this world (2Cor 10:3-5, Eph 6:2). You need to rely on Christ’s power and authority (Eph 1:21-23). And fortify yourself with TRUTH AND LOVE! Commit to staying in the Word. Don’t let satan use blame, fear, guilt, confusion, denial, or lack of forgiveness to prevent your growth. Equip yourselves with prayer, love, honesty, and truth in Scripture.

I am praying for wisdom, insight, and strength for both of you. And I know God is doing a mighty work and this situation will bring glory to Him. Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform [it] until the day of Jesus Christ.

I hope the book opens their eyes. I believe DD hubby alcoholic father left him will a desire to please and pastor picked up on it and zeroed in for the kill. Both dd and hubby were ripe for the pick en. If the book opens their eyes they might realise they have not been seeing things in perspective then...maybe...I'm also sending Twisted Scriptures.

You can read the first chapter from Untangling Relationships: A Christian Perspective on Codependency online at http://tinyurl.com/nkzp5

PLEASE keep praying for dd and hubby for wisdom, insight, and strength.

Thanks for being here and listening

newlife
09-11-2006, 04:47 PM
Oh, wow! Is your daughter in agreement with her hubby to go back to confront the pastor? So many people have tried to confront these abusive pastors, only to be wounded further or they get drawn back into the abusive "fold". It is such a difficult situation! I will continue to keep them in prayer...

love, newlife