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Reg
11-08-2004, 10:42 AM
I just read where you deleted an offensive message and banned someone.

I want to congratulate you for your efforts to make this a safe place for those who are traumatized in many cases from their past church/religious experiences.

As you know, TRUST is the one thing that has been shattered by those who were/are in positions of authority in today's Christian churches. The delicate fragile people that come here need this reassurance that we have a haven of peace and safety filled with GRACE.

Thank you again for you efforts and vigilence in helping us have such a place. :)

Emerging
11-08-2004, 03:37 PM
As you know, TRUST is the one thing that has been shattered by those who were/are in positions of authority in today's Christian churches. The delicate fragile people that come here need this reassurance that we have a haven of peace and safety filled with GRACE. Thank you again for you efforts and vigilence in helping us have such a place. :)

Reg, after yet another terrible day at work, in all fairness I must add this:

The abusers at my jobsite always appear calm and peaceful and yes, filled with GRACE.

Their targets make lots of mistakes, are nervous and edgy, definitely NOT very graceful when you get right down to it.

Who's got the problem? Praying you say "the abusers" ... who, as the psych literature points out time after time after time .... "LOOK" ... graceful, poised, confident ... while their targets are wounded to the core.

We mortals need to be very careful in judging ("Judge not...") because we lack soooo many facts, and most of all, we have NO idea about the "intent of a person's heart" ... and last I heard, that was what God went by most of all.

My intent has always been to support a truly safe forum. Will say that I will likely be banned for saying this but ... if a caretaker lets the garden grow wild, is that the garden's fault ... or the caretakers? ... likewise if a moderator doesn't do a good job of PRAYING about and seeing through the intent of EVERYONE's posts, .. who's fault is it when that forum becomes unsafe?

And how fair is it to ban someone when the moderator allowed such feelings of unsafeness to develop in the first place??

It is not. Are we talking "millstone around someone's neck" here level of injury ... and eternal consequences? Sadly, probably, yes.

Satscout
11-08-2004, 03:45 PM
We are talking about the deleted post from "Omega", right? :confused:

Voyager
11-08-2004, 04:24 PM
Here is the post in question:

Originally Posted by Omega
Is that what makes you ack like a jerk? oR is that why family abandoned u

I don't see why there would be any question as to why the Admin would delete something like this. This is the type of attack that caused the old forum to get shut down. It's happened numerous times on this forum, and the Admin has had enough of it. The person who posted it had plenty of warnings, and they kept coming on the forum under new screen names to try to beat the system.

I don't think the "judgement" came from the Admin. I think it came from the person who got banned. Would you like your posts to be attacked like this? If the Admin let this continue, it would have eventually scared everyone off of the forum. There are already a bunch of people who won't post here anymore due to what happened on the old forum.

I admitted that these type of posts triggered me on the old forum, and I admitted my part in trying to retaliate against the person who posted them against me. Instead of doing the same thing on the new forum, I just let the Admin take care of it - which he promised to do. So now we don't have to defend ouselves on a free-for-all forum where there are no guidelines. The guidelines here are no name-calling and no personal attacks. I think that the majority of us would prefer these guidelines to be enforced.

Without rules we would have chaos. That is not abuse, that is safety.

That's my opinion on the matter.

:cool:

Jubileesong
11-08-2004, 08:03 PM
I have to be honest, Emerging...I'm not sure what your post means.

I'm glad that someone watches over everything and takes care of things when need be. I don't think there is anything wrong with disagreeing - in fact, it is HEALTHY to disagree and work things out sometimes. But, there is a difference between disagreeing and outright attacking someone. Calling names or saying cruel things is unnecessary - at any time.

Everyone is at a different place along the journey - and we don't all have what we need to protect ourselves all the time...and when nerves are exposed and sensative and we can't protect ourselves, it's nice when someone else tries. Not always running to the rescue or enabling...but just genuinely looking out for others. I don't call this judgmental. In fact, we ought to be careful that we don't confuse judgment with discernment and prudence.

:0)

Hannah