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Voyager
11-05-2004, 11:24 AM
When I was two-years-old, my dad left my mom. He took off with another woman, started committing crimes, and was then locked up in prison for 18 years. My mom got remarried when I was 11 to an ex-marine cop who decided that he was going to teach my younger brother and I some discipline. Between the ages of 11 and 16 I attended eight different schools (we moved often). I quit school at the age of 16, and my mom subsequently got divorced again. I got real wild from the age of 16 until I was 21, then I decided to get saved and find a stable life for a change.

I ended up joining a charismatic church of around 400 people that was 30 miles from where I lived. I ended up moving to be closer to the church. Evntually I met a great woman there and got married to her. She had also come from a broken, dysfunctional family. For both of us, this church became everything. Since neither of us had any stable family ties, we found a "replacement family" in the church. We now had the brothers, sisters, aunts, uncles, grandmas, and grandpas that we never had. Everything seemed so right. We were so happy that we now had a stable support system to raise our children in - or so we thought.

When we had been at the church about 12 years, we began to notice a lot of abuse that was taken place. I was in the music ministry, so I saw a lot of abuse that others didn't see. The pastor had began using shaming, manipulation, and control on members to gain compliance. If anyone ever questioned the methods being used, they were blacklisted and shunned. One day I decided that I could no longer tolerate the abuse, so I left the church. Fortunately, my wife left with me. After we left, we were blacklisted by the pastor. Members were told to have nothing to do with us. They turned the other way when they saw us on the street. All of this took place in the latter part of 1998.

After we left, it was an uphill battle. We had just found out that we had a second daughter on the way. We struggled to find another church, but nothing seemed to fit. I found myself being triggered by certain Scriptures to the point that I would get up and walk out of church services. My heart was torn apart, and our lives were traumatized by the severing of close relationships in our former church. Because of this, I found myself unable to trust church-people anymore. To make matters worse, we had no stable family to speak of. We became an island unto ourselves, and still are today for the most part.

My daughters are now ages five and nine. They are great kids, but they don't have any adult figures in their lives except for their teachers and their parents. They don't have any aunts, uncles, grandmas, and grandpas to turn to for support. Right now I don't think they see the lack - but I sure do. It grieves me every day, sometimes to the point of depression. My heart aches as bad today as it did in 1998 when I escaped the abusive church. I find it almost impossible to trust people. The fear of rejection is very real, and I have a tendency to get very defensive when I sense it happening again.

Why can't I seem to "move on" from this? It feels like I am stuck. I have trouble being organized and disciplined now. Most days I don't even want to get out of bed. There is a constant pain in my heart that never goes away. I want to be a stable parent and husband, but it's very difficult. The desire to self-medicate to make the pain go away is overwhelming at times. I want to join a support group, but the memories of the last one are stuck in my mind. Something inside me tells me that no matter how good the group looks, eventually they will find fault with me and sever ties with me.

It's been six years now, but it seems like just yesterday. I try to repress the memories, but it's impossible to do so. If I had some kind of stable support system or a family to lean on, I feel like I could work through this. But without that, it seems impossible. Will it ever get any better?

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Florence
11-05-2004, 03:14 PM
Voyager,
If I could, I would put my arm around your shoulders and tell you everything will be alright. If I could, I would say whatever it is that you need to hear more than anything and be whatever it is that you need more than anything. I would weep with you and hold you close and be your forever friend.

I can't do any of that, really, but I hope it helps for you to know that I want to.

Florence

Voyager
11-05-2004, 06:32 PM
Thanks Florence. I really appreciate you and the other members of this forum. At times you have been the only support I have had. That's why I didn't run away when all of the trauma was going down. I have nowhere else to run to.

I would be willing to guess that there are a lot of available shoulders out there. It's just trying to get past the reluctance I have to find them. Our daughters are so loving and outgoing. I try to be everything I can for them, and I think I am doing okay given my circumstances. But it seems like so much weight on my wife and I, and I just wish that we had other adults in our lives that our kids could lean on. I don't know what would happen if something ever happened to us.

My wife is awesome. She is a real tropper, and didn't get as attached as I did to our former church. She is kind of an independent person, which is a good trait for the most part - but doesn't help us much to keep from isolating ourselves. Since I am self-employed and she doesn't work outside the home, it keeps us from contact with the outside world. She has been thinking about getting a job just for the social benefits, but is not actively looking (nor am I pushing her to). My youngest just started kindergarten, so she is just now getting free enough to consider it.

I know that there are a few members of this forum whom have been hurt by things that I have said when conflicts have taken place here. If you knew me personally, you would understand that I am really a very understanding and compassionate person. At times I am probably too sensitive. But as we all know, wounded people have a tendency to wound people. They don't mean to, they just see everything through their own wounds and when it looks like they might get wounded again they can become quite defensive.

In spite of all my pain, life is still worth living. I have my good times. Sometimes they are clouded by the pain, but other times I am free to really enjoy life. I have a great wife, and two great daughters. My faith in religion has been destroyed, but for some reason I really don't see that as a loss. I wish I could find love and support without religion, but I cannot seem to find a church that offers that. God knows that if I could find it, I could give it back in return.

Thanks for listening.

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Willow
11-06-2004, 09:49 AM
HUGS Voyager,

I really related to what you said about the inner pain and the despair to even get up in the mornings. I call the inner pain my "inside owies". Going on an antidepressant has helped the owies considerably. I'd like to find the key to heal and comfort without medication though. The only consolation I have is that I"m not "self medicating". I'm not sure it's much better though. Just coz a doctor gave it to me, doesn't mean it's not avoiding the problem. So... these are my struggles. I wish I could relate to the family problems. I'm not sure how you can possibly function through the owies to be there for your children and wife, but I'm amazed and proud of you for doing it. This is really sparking some stuff I could write about. Maybe I'll put it in a different post.

Take gentle care,
Willow

Reg
11-06-2004, 10:08 AM
My wife is awesome. She is a real tropper, and didn't get as attached as I did to our former church. She is kind of an independent person, which is a good trait for the most part - but doesn't help us much to keep from isolating ourselves. Since I am self-employed and she doesn't work outside the home, it keeps us from contact with the outside world. :cool:


((((Hugs)))) also Voyager.

Your story sounds a bit like mine being alone and like an island. I too had a dysfunctional early life and found out when I was 18 that my father wasn't my real father. That was the beginning of my distrust issue. I think you know the rest of that story. I also work out of the house.

I now find myself much alone. I only have my elderly mother as the only living relative. I was an only child as was my mother. My support system comes from above to a large extent.

I know that I am loved by God and that has pulled me through many difficult times. He has proved it to me over and over. So, it's that personal relationship with Him that sustains me.

Because of that, I can confidently say to you, you are loved also. By many of us here and for sure by God.

It's in your Bible how much he demonstrated that love by what Jesus did for us. You know where they are.........."For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son........"

And Rom 5:8 says that also.

The comfort of the scriptures is what I have to keep reassuring me of this.

Omega
11-07-2004, 05:53 AM
This post has been deleted because of offensive content inconsistent with the purposes of this forum. Personal attacks will not be tolerated on this forum.

adrift
11-07-2004, 06:15 AM
(((((((((((((((Voyager))))))))))))))))
God Bless You, brother...
I wish I had the words to say to ease your pain. Like so many who have already posted, I can so relate to your pain. I have been told at different times in my life that these painful times help us to grow in Him, our Lord, who gives us the strength to face each day. Currently, I am coping with a marriage growing apart....Satan has tormented the dearest person in my life towards a life that does not include me.....it is happening slowly and there seem to be new loses for me every day as his steps move farther away from our life together. Abandonment has been an issue all my life....adopted at a year of age after two foster homes, first marriage-I was left for another woman...it is a repeat over and over (there have been other 'abandonments' I won't go into). I am trying hard to cling to what I DO know-that God is with me, always has been and will carry me if he has to through this too. I can not and will not lean on my own understanding. I WILL NOT let Satan win this one...he almost destroyed me before. Satan makes me believe that I am not good enough to be loved and cherished....I ain't listening anymore. I think we need to step back and see where the deception is coming from and then try to put it all into perspective. I happen to believe that we are on the cusp of what Revelations and many christian writers term the 'End Times'. All of the hidiousness in our world today is proof. I thank God that he is with me through this and will be faithful. My timing, my plans....not important here....bigger stuff is coming and I WILL be ready! I can do all things through Christ who gives me strength! (Phil 4:13)
Please hang in there...bring these feelings to God...leave them at the cross and let God deal with them. Hang onto what you know...you are precious to God and he will never leave you or forsake you!

In Him
adrift :)

P.S. Sorry, I get going and don't stop...I didn't mean to preach...just give you hope, my friend. ;)

Voyager
11-07-2004, 07:40 AM
Is that what makes you ack like a jerk? oR is that why family abandoned u

It's obvious that you have no intention but to disrupt this forum and try to ruin it. I for one am sick and tired of your actions, and I hope that everyone just ignores you. We are trying to heal, and you are trying to disrupt that healing. Why don't you just give up? Why do you keep coming back here under new screen names and attacking my posts? If you don't like what I have to say, why not just put me on ignore and move on? For a long time you had everyone believing that I was the one causing the forum disruptions - but you have now made it obvious that you are the one who has been the cause of it.

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Voyager
11-07-2004, 08:01 AM
Thanks to everyone (well, almost everyone) for your kind, compassionate replies. It's good to see the forum getting back on track and being used for what it was meant for. We can just ignore the disruptions, eh? Why let one disgruntled person ruin it for the rest of us?

Back to the topic. Well, I just found out that my former church recently had a special "appreciation service" for all of the law enforcement and emergency workers (police officers, detectives, fire department, ambulance drivers, paramedics, etc.). They invited all of them and served cake, ice cream, and baked items of all kinds.

This is so hypocritical. The church has dwindled from 450 members down to around 110 members since the pastor was terminated under a cloud of accusations including embezzlement, abuse, control, and brainwashing. Instead of reaching out to all of the members who were disposed of and thrown away by the pastor, they are reaching out to the law enforcement officials in an attempt to get on their good side in case an embezzlement investigation is launched. A lot of the staff at the church supposedly has dirty hands in this matter, and several of them could be implicated as accomplices.

If they had any idea of how wounded the casualties of this pastor were, they would come running with stretchers and bandages. The place is obviously still being run by fear, and I think it will probably dwindle away to less than 50 members by the end of the year. I really see no hope for the place. The master manipulator is gone now, and that person had the glue that held everything together. No one else on staff seems to be that good at manipulating the people with guilt and fear.

I'll keep you posted.

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Jerry
11-07-2004, 11:18 AM
Wow Missed that post by Omega,,,
From what little vestage of it is left ,,,I would have had to hold his arms behind him while Voyager kicked his ass :D I guess it is better that the admin deleted it ;)
Love Jerry

Jubileesong
11-07-2004, 02:37 PM
ha ha, Jerry. You're such a hoot!

Have a great day, all!

Hannah