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Illuminated
07-12-2006, 08:58 PM
Hiya Maggie! I thought you might be interested in the information below. Your words are in purple, and words from sources on the internet are in blue.

This is what you wrote about me or to me in several posts in that horrid Spiritual Illness thread.

But you'd better be ready to swallow some of the abusive, rude, ugly, un-Christlike things you have posted as well! And there are some gems!
As much as you (illuminated) may think you are enlightened and better than the rest of us, you have caused more chaos on this forum than any of us.
http://www.christianrecovery.com/vb/showpost.php?p=33991&postcount=1

....we get enough of your kind of crap from Illuminated!
http://www.christianrecovery.com/vb/showpost.php?p=33936&postcount=1
Here are some definitions of crap, as listed from several sources on the internet:

Crap: obscene terms for feces: obscene words for unacceptable behavior; excrement: an act of defecating: foolish; deceitful; boastful language; cheap or shoddy material; insolent talk or behavior.
Now, the definition of libel from several law dictionaries on the internet, is as follows:

Libel is the written or otherwise published, public defamation of a person or entity such as an organization or company. Defamation is any wrongful injury to the reputation of a person or entity.

While the right to fairly criticize people or entities and publicly share information is one of the hallmarks of personal freedom, it is illegal to malign the reputation of another through slander or libel.

Here is the definition of defamation, from legal sites on the internet:

1. In the most general terms: defamation is the issuance of a false statement about another person, which causes that person to suffer harm. Defamation can come in either the form of libel (written defamation) or slander (oral defamation).

2. A false statement that injures someone's reputation and exposes him to public contempt, hatred, ridicule, or condemnation. If the false statement is published in print or through broadcast media, such as radio or TV, it is called libel.

To succeed in a case for defamation, you have to prove four elements: 1) a false or defamatory statement was made against you; 2) the statement was made to a third party (anyone other than you, either verbally or in written form); 3) if the defamation was of public concern, then the publisher of the defamation had to be negligent; and 4) you suffered damage, such as an injury to your reputation or, in some cases, mental anguish.

Just thought you might be interested in this information. I'll be posting your remarks to me in the Online Live Discussion With Author: Surviving Abuse and Grief topic in the General Recovery forum along with this information on libel and character defamation .

;)

Jerry
07-13-2006, 06:35 AM
This post serves no useful purpose. :(

jimsmuse
07-13-2006, 06:36 AM
:( Please Illuminated, ..........that's enough, let it be over ............in Jesus

name, can you do that? for His sake?

Doug64
07-13-2006, 07:20 AM
Once things have been said, they can't be taken back.

It would seem all involved could just express their "i'm sorries" and that would be the end of it.

Doug

Illuminated
07-13-2006, 07:21 AM
:( Please Illuminated, ..........that's enough, let it be over ............in Jesus name, can you do that? for His sake?Thanks for your input, Jerry and Jimsmuse.
I am wondering how you would feel if your name was identified with crap? How would you feel if you were called abusive, etc.?:mad: I did not ask for a response to this post from the member, I just stated the facts.

I believe this post does serve a purpose. I am gently confronting the member who verbally abused me. Have you read that book Love in Hard Places by C. A. Carson? I think it might be like the book mentioned in another thread - Bold Love. The first book mentions loving people when it is hard, but also taking action, for the good of the difficult person, when their behaviour is completely out of line. So, I am confronting the member in love, hard love, and bold love.

There comes a point in recovery where people are psychologically and emotionally capable of confronting their abusers. I am at that point in my recovery process. If I was in a face to face conversation with the member, I would talk to her privately after she hurled the insults at me. This is not possible on this forum, so instead I addressed a post just to her in an attempt at some kind of privacy.

I consider the posts mentioned above to be an abusive attack on my integrity. The reason I do is that in the past, in posts I have not mentioned, replies from this same member have been offensive to me, so I cannot just shrug off these remarks and think that the member is having a bad day.

The rude words are continuing to be written, and I am no longer can allow myself to be the target of such words. I believe that Christians should be held accountable for their actions, especially since the actions of this particular member towards me have been going on sporadically for about 3 months.

Take what works :mad: and leave the rest.