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profnachos
07-01-2006, 06:10 PM
I watched this documentary (http://www.bonhoeffer.com/thefilm.htm) called Bonhoeffer which traces the life of this young pastor who stood against Hitler. Got it from Netflix.

What is interesting is that Bonhoeffer had to fight battles on two fronts: One against the Nazis and the other against his own church which had sold its soul to Hitler. One thing I didn't know was how his years studying at a New York seminary so deeply impacted his worldview. He befriended a couple of black classmates, and got a first hand look at injustice and the church's wilful participation in oppression. After returning to Germany and seeing Hitler's persecution of the Jews, he noticed a smilar pattern of what he saw in America and recognized the bigotry for what it was.

But that is not the only part of this wonderful documentary about the remarkable man of God. Anything more I have say, I am afraid, will only mar your experience.

There were very very few Bonhoeffers back then, and I suspect there are very few today in the ranks of American Christian leadership. We just have a lot of big mouths.

Illuminated
07-02-2006, 10:49 AM
There were very very few Bonhoeffers back then, and I suspect there are very few today in the ranks of American Christian leadership. We just have a lot of big mouths.Aha! Your post is confirmation for me! (I hope those words don't trigger anyone!)

My wise therapist mentioned to me last week that she thought it would be a good idea for me to read Bonhoffer's book The Cost of Discipleship . (hmmmm ..... its much cheaper to read your posts, PN! I guess I still have to count the costs ($110 an hour!) of discipleship !! :D )

My hubby has mentioned Bonhoffer several times over the years of our marriage too. So, Amazon dot com, here I come!

In Theo's posts in the other forum we were kinda wondering who would be the next Luther and write some theses and where the door would be. http://www.christianrecovery.com/vb/showpost.php?p=33063&postcount=1

Our abusers are certainly doing nothing compared to the damage that Hitler did. However, I still wonder who will have the mouth and the gumption to start publically naming and complaining about the way disciples are being treated by so-called leaders? Is it us? Are we the ones?

Take what works and :D leave the triggering words!

profnachos
07-02-2006, 12:12 PM
Aha! Your post is confirmation for me! (I hope those words don't trigger anyone!)

My wise therapist mentioned to me last week that she thought it would be a good idea for me to read Bonhoffer's book The Cost of Discipleship . (hmmmm ..... its much cheaper to read your posts, PN! I guess I still have to count the costs ($110 an hour!) of discipleship !! :D )

My hubby has mentioned Bonhoffer several times over the years of our marriage too. So, Amazon dot com, here I come!

In Theo's posts in the other forum we were kinda wondering who would be the next Luther and write some theses and where the door would be. http://www.christianrecovery.com/vb/showpost.php?p=33063&postcount=1

Our abusers are certainly doing nothing compared to the damage that Hitler did. However, I still wonder who will have the mouth and the gumption to start publically naming and complaining about the way disciples are being treated by so-called leaders? Is it us? Are we the ones?

Take what works and :D leave the triggering words!

Is it us? I don't know. I've been thinking about that since you posted that very question, but there are too many competiting thoughts.

Words of caution about the Cost of Discipleship. The contents of the book have been used by fundamentalists to justify their legalistic ways. Bonhoeffer's main point was that grace is not cheap, but costly. As a disciple, you have to follow him.

It is one of those things where you have to consider the historic context that Bonhoeffer was faced with - which was the darkest days of Nazism and the church in cahoots with Hitler. He was not advocating legalism, but it is sad to see fundamentalists have taken it that way. They misuse a lot of things, so what else is new? I would recomment seeing the documentary or read one of his biographies first to get to know him as a person before delving into the Cost of Discipleship.

Illuminated
07-03-2006, 07:01 AM
Words of caution about the Cost of Discipleship. I would recommend seeing the documentary or read one of his biographies first to get to know him as a person before delving into the Cost of Discipleship.Thanks for the suggestions.

If you have the time to answer: What is Netflix? I'm not to current on some of the newer technologies as I've been out of touch with the real world for a while....:o