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Shadow
10-27-2004, 12:25 PM
Triggered by a couple of emails. I receieved two emails dressing me down and like the leaders I had sat under. They would give the polish and all the flourish in public and then send the garbage very secretively much like was described by OnTheRoad. Today, when I read Reg's post, I couldn't help but think that there have been so many figures in my life that use those scriptures and there are the wannabee's that tell you that they are an authority and use those same scriptures and like the end of Reg's post, I don't want to be run by them even in private messages nor do I want to be shamed into conforming to their image and
I am so tired of the jerks that are hurting me and playing like a sneaky deceitful devil. I am repulsed by the jerks that are not authentic and are plastic with their images. I am tired of pretending that the forked tongue don't exist and that the person(s) are not vipers. I do believe in exposing so others do not get hurt by it.
AND I have exposed it. Funny how everyone else is allowed to feel what they feel and I am not allowed to what I am going through.

When I read Reg's post, I thought of how it was too bad there wasn't more like it because I am tired of the jab's behind the scene's and I am tired of being ripped by someone who think's it is there job to put me in place and I am tired of the
"plastic" or "Synthetic" and I want the real relationship.

The Holy Spirit is indeed the one that I need to turn to guide me. I have turned off my private message unit because of one person who has constantly harassed me and I am not going to continue anymore pretending that it hasn't existed. IT does and now I need to get back to the things like Reg wrote and focus on that.

Oopsie Daisey
waiting for my account to be fixed.

Thanks.

Emerging
10-27-2004, 05:51 PM
Triggered by a couple of emails. I receieved two emails dressing me down and like the leaders I had sat under. They would give the polish and all the flourish in public and then send the garbage very secretively much like was described by OnTheRoad. Today, when I read Reg's post, I couldn't help but think that there have been so many figures in my life that use those scriptures and there are the wannabee's that tell you that they are an authority and use those same scriptures and like the end of Reg's post, I don't want to be run by them even in private messages nor do I want to be shamed into conforming to their image and
I am so tired of the jerks that are hurting me and playing like a sneaky deceitful devil. I am repulsed by the jerks that are not authentic and are plastic with their images. I am tired of pretending that the forked tongue don't exist and that the person(s) are not vipers. I do believe in exposing so others do not get hurt by it.
AND I have exposed it. Funny how everyone else is allowed to feel what they feel and I am not allowed to what I am going through.

When I read Reg's post, I thought of how it was too bad there wasn't more like it because I am tired of the jab's behind the scene's and I am tired of being ripped by someone who think's it is there job to put me in place and I am tired of the
"plastic" or "Synthetic" and I want the real relationship.

The Holy Spirit is indeed the one that I need to turn to guide me. I have turned off my private message unit because of one person who has constantly harassed me and I am not going to continue anymore pretending that it hasn't existed. IT does and now I need to get back to the things like Reg wrote and focus on that.

Oopsie Daisey
waiting for my account to be fixed.

Thanks.


(((Daisey))), ouch. To have someone be all sweet and nice to you in public here, then a rotten piece of tuti fruiti in PMs to you ... that's evil. Period.

I agree with what I think is the general feeling that we are all survivors who *will* trigger until we are completely healed. BUT what will we do afterward we trigger? Apologize and repent/make the best amends we can? :) Or non-publicly go after someone who scares us for whatever reason? :(

Like you said, the plastic/synthetic/fake-cool person who's a dirty rotten jerk behind the scenes is *CLASSIC* abusive... and I think we've all sadly been hurt at their hands. ... but how many of us have decided that the power-trip of becoming one of those slick-jerk-ABUSERS is a drug we can't do without? :(

NOT most everyone else here! ... but someone's going after Daisey privately and that person is ABUSIVE, PERIOD!! That person should stop posting until that person get's their life in order, for now that person IS a wolf in sheep's clothing and makes this forum way less safe than the rest of us want it to be.

Sign me, mama bear/Emerging

Jerry
10-27-2004, 08:24 PM
Hmmmmmmmmmm,,,,,,,,,I haven't recieved any PMs like that :mad:
Jerry

Voyager
10-27-2004, 10:07 PM
Here is the PM that I sent to Daisy that is being referred to here:

Why do you continually attack and assault me? I haven't ever done anything to you. Why do you hate me? I have never abused you. You have slandered my name horribly on this forum, and for what reason I do not know. Now here you are making up new screen names just like you did on the old forum. You made up new screen names, and you attacked me. Then when I did the same to you in return, you turned the whole forum against me.

I know that your dad was a pastor, and you seem to have this thing for people who come onto the forum and want to lead us spiritually. Then when I come against them, you attack me with such hatred and hostility you would think I had murdered someone. Maybe you have this thing about defending "spiritual leaders" or something, I don't know. Maybe it's because your dad is a pastor. Either way, I really don't care.

Just stop stalking me and harassing me!!! You have no right to do this to me!!!

With this kind of stuff happening here, this is not a safe place. And whoever wants to support it is supporting abuse of the forum. Unless this nonsense is stopped, this forum will become an online insane asylum. You can cry wolf or whatever you want. You can call me all kinds of names. But that doesn't change the fact that I am not the culprit here, and I am getting tired of being slandered for someone else's actions.

This person has already been banned under two screen names, and now is on her third. That speaks for itself.

:cool:

Voyager
10-27-2004, 10:15 PM
At this point in time I am going to put Daisy on ignore, and also Emerging. I have no interest in reading any of this b.s. about me any longer. It is ridiculous and foolish, and serves no purpose in healing or recovery whatsoever.

I am not your enemy. I am not your abuser. Don't blame me - blame the person(s) who abused you. I will not be your scapegoat.

:cool:

Voyager
10-27-2004, 10:17 PM
For the record, here is the second PM that I sent Daisy that is being referred to here:

I just read your post, and I forgive you. But please, let me just be who I am. If I say something you don't like, it's okay to disagree. Just please don't call me names and attack my character. I will agree to do the same for you.

:cool:

Willow
10-28-2004, 04:51 AM
I don't see anything abusive about Voyager's PMs. They seemed more like an effort to stop the fight in the spirit mentioned by an earlier post... to take disagreements behind the scenes and not in public. I can't remember where I saw that post... I think it was on the writing a book thread. It made sense to me. It tears out my heart when I come to the forum and see people attacking each other. It's ruined my experience here.

Emerging
10-28-2004, 07:33 AM
And this is why when God opens our eyes and make us aware of abuse in our lives, esp in churches and esp when the abusers are "long-standing respected members" ....so many will not believe us when we say anything ... because it dosn't take a direct blow of any kind to assault... abusers become sneakier and sneakier over time but the wounds still occur just as the abusers intend for them to occur ...

... and so we leave quietly, watching our names and reputations continue to be trashed out in ways so subtly twisting that only God himself can sort it all out.

For if the pastor/leader/long-standing member says they speak "the truth" ... then it must be so. :(

Voyager
10-28-2004, 08:12 AM
I don't see anything abusive about Voyager's PMs. They seemed more like an effort to stop the fight in the spirit mentioned by an earlier post... to take disagreements behind the scenes and not in public. I can't remember where I saw that post... I think it was on the writing a book thread. It made sense to me. It tears out my heart when I come to the forum and see people attacking each other. It's ruined my experience here.

Same with me Willow. I almost left the forums over this, but I felt like that would have been wrong to let someone chase me away like that. This type of thing probably scares many people away from here.

Anyway, now that I have Daisy and Emerging on ignore, I cannot see what they are posting - so it won't bother me anymore. I'm glad they have this feature on the new forums. I wish I had known about it before now.

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