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butterfly
05-17-2006, 04:39 PM
I have been here over a year.
I have not read anyones posts who want to change the ruels nor suggest that some should leave to a forum just made for them. Not till you found out about Ninas.
I have no ill feelings about you but what you post trying to get rid of Ninas to leave and even wrote in Alannajoys post about DID. You said"A few suffer from disassociative identity disorderand may post as alter personalities. I think this happen on general recovery NACR forum"
Well that means me too.You know I have DID.I don"t like being pointed out as some freak that shouldn"t be here!!:( :( :( Everyone I feel have accepted Ninas and myself. No one has ever treated us like you do.
You even are trying to change the rules here.
Telling Candy how she should post was out of line. We have no right to tell anyone to leave or go to another site.
If the person is upsetting us then we talk it thru.
You seem bent on changing this forum and having your rules applied.
For the record I signed in as butterfly when I first came here. I added shirley because at the time two other ladys came in and used thebutterfly also . So I put shirley so people woould know it was me. butterfly shirley Gee I think you don"t want us aroudn here.Us means ninas and me and who ever else who are DID. butterfly shirley
Thanks be to God because He accepts us as is .All of us!!!!
Janice
05-18-2006, 02:02 AM
You know I have DID.I don"t like being pointed out as some freak that shouldn"t be here!!:( :( :(
(((((((((Shirley))))))))
You are safe & welcome here. You're no more of a "freak" then I am or anyone else here. :D ;)
I have missed all of something...
but I know that you butterfly are not only welcome here but loved very very much!
jane
Willow
05-18-2006, 06:24 AM
(((((((((((((Shirley))))))))))))))))
You have been a lifeline to me several times!
Illuminated
05-18-2006, 08:17 AM
And.... what else do you have on your mind today, Butterfly? :D
I have been here over a year.
I have not read anyones posts who want to change the ruels nor suggest that some should leave to a forum just made for them. Not till you found out about Ninas.
I have no ill feelings about you but what you post trying to get rid of Ninas to leave and even wrote in Alannajoys post about DID. You said"A few suffer from disassociative identity disorderand may post as alter personalities. I think this happen on general recovery NACR forum"
Well that means me too.You know I have DID.I don"t like being pointed out as some freak that shouldn"t be here!!:( :( :( Everyone I feel have accepted Ninas and myself. No one has ever treated us like you do.
You even are trying to change the rules here.
Telling Candy how she should post was out of line. We have no right to tell anyone to leave or go to another site.
If the person is upsetting us then we talk it thru.
You seem bent on changing this forum and having your rules applied.
For the record I signed in as butterfly when I first came here. I added shirley because at the time two other ladys came in and used thebutterfly also . So I put shirley so people woould know it was me. butterfly shirley Gee I think you don"t want us aroudn here.Us means ninas and me and who ever else who are DID. butterfly shirley
Thanks be to God because He accepts us as is .All of us!!!!
butterfly
05-18-2006, 01:54 PM
And.... what else do you have on your mind today, Butterfly? :D
Why you react like you do?
What scares you so much about Ninas?
Why you get upset when the rules are not
followed here?
Why you get upset when people here use
humor while telling what they have gone thru?
Why you get upset at people here and twist there words and whip them back at them? As they were the bad ones.
Why you seem not to have commpasion for Ninas.
That is what is on my mind today.
Most of all who hurt you so much that we trigger you. If you tell us your triggers we will try to be carefull not to do it.
butterfly shirley
ninaspirit
05-18-2006, 04:29 PM
Buterfly -
the questions you ask are much like we have for most peple who are scard from us. we have a close frend who is scard from us even if we didnt never do nothin to her. just hering abot it makes her scard. she will walk away fast if we try explaning so she can get herself feeling safe. she say she just cant make it work in her head how we are. but she still acepts us in her way. and we have other things we can have together. is ok.
movies and storys peple say abot peple who have DID make it look bad for us but it is not how we are. Insiders have differnt ways just like single to single. so we are a famly inside a body like the outsid famly in a house and the church/town/busnes/famly has lots of parts.........peple can say it isnt normal for a person but it is abuse that isnt normal. so we hope peple who dont fel safe will feel mor safe with us in time. if we can feel safe for talking abot it it is mor easy for peple acepting us. in time. and see we are not scary. some insiders hurt lots so they do things for trying to get it out or for asking for help but not for being mean.
You are a great frend for us ((((((((((Buterfly)))))))) love ninas.
SpinningHead
05-18-2006, 04:33 PM
peple can say it isnt normal for a person but it is abuse that isnt normal.
AMEN!
((((((Ninas))))))
(((((Butterfly))))))
yeshua'smags
05-18-2006, 04:56 PM
Who are we to say anyone else isn't normal?
I'm certainly not normal.
I don't like bread, or pizza.
I sleep with a blanket, ( hello? Can we say issues?).
I don't like to clean my house because I get really psychotic about it and make everyone's life miserable if they get it messy again.
I make jewelry because I am so anal about everything matching, I about drove myself crazy trying to find it to match every outfit!
I don't like the vacuum, or the hairdryer, they're too loud, makes me nervous.
I'm terrified of spiders, heights, and too samll spaces.
I scream uncontrollably when adults crawl on the ground. (?)
Now, tell me that is normal!:D
Normal is highly overrated!:p
Illuminated
05-20-2006, 01:45 AM
I have thought about how to respond to your post for a few days now. I think the best way for me to respond would be to type my repsonses after your comments in turquoise. That is what I have done below. Your words are in black.
I have not read anyones posts who want to change the ruels ….
Please tell me where I said I wanted to change the rules.
nor suggest that some should leave to a forum just made for them. Not till you found out about Ninas. Please tell me where I suggested that Nina leave the Forum.
I have no ill feelings about you but what you post trying to get rid of Ninas to leave… Please tell me where I said I was trying to get Nina to leave or trying to get rid of her.
and even wrote in Alannajoys post about DID. You said "A few suffer from disassociative identity disorderand may post as alter personalities. I think this happen on general recovery NACR forum"
I said “A few of us…” I did not say any names. It is true. Some users on the forum suffer from DID.
Well that means me too. You know I have DID. I don"t like being pointed out as some freak that shouldn"t be here!! Please tell me where I pointed you out as a freak or said you shouldn’t be here.
Everyone I feel have accepted Ninas and myself. No one has ever treated us like you do. Please explain. I don’t understand what you mean when you write “like you do.”
You even are trying to change the rules here. Please tell me where I said I was trying to change the rules.
Telling Candy how she should post was out of line. Please tell me where I told Candy how she could post.
We have no right to tell anyone to leave or go to another site. Please tell me where I said someone should leave or go to another site.
You seem bent on changing this forum and having your rules applied. Please tell me what I wrote that makes you think this.
I look forward to reading your response to my questions to you. :)
I have been here over a year.
I have not read anyones posts who want to change the ruels nor suggest that some should leave to a forum just made for them. Not till you found out about Ninas.
I have no ill feelings about you but what you post trying to get rid of Ninas to leave and even wrote in Alannajoys post about DID. You said"A few suffer from disassociative identity disorderand may post as alter personalities. I think this happen on general recovery NACR forum"
Well that means me too.You know I have DID.I don"t like being pointed out as some freak that shouldn"t be here!!:( :( :( Everyone I feel have accepted Ninas and myself. No one has ever treated us like you do.
You even are trying to change the rules here.
Telling Candy how she should post was out of line. We have no right to tell anyone to leave or go to another site.
If the person is upsetting us then we talk it thru.
You seem bent on changing this forum and having your rules applied.
For the record I signed in as butterfly when I first came here. I added shirley because at the time two other ladys came in and used thebutterfly also . So I put shirley so people woould know it was me. butterfly shirley Gee I think you don"t want us aroudn here.Us means ninas and me and who ever else who are DID. butterfly shirley
Thanks be to God because He accepts us as is .All of us!!!!
Illuminated
05-20-2006, 02:04 AM
I have responded to your questions, the best way that I am able, by typing my responses in turquiose after your words in black. I am really sorry, but I don't understand some of your questions, so I've done the best I can when writing my answers.
Why you react like you do? How do I react?
What scares you so much about Ninas? What makes you think I am scared of Ninas?
Why you get upset when the rules are not followed here? From my understanding, and from the comments of others, there are no rules here to follow.
Why you get upset when people here use humor while telling what they have gone thru? I don't get upset when people use humour in a general sense, or directed at themselves. I do get upset when people call their abusers bad names and make jokes about them. I think that when we do that, we are just as bad as our abusers because we are saying mean things about our abusers. I believe our abusers are people of God also, and that we should have compassion for them instead of attacking them in a public place. What other people say is none of my business though. I think I have commented directly to only one person about making jokes on the forum, and I listed the reasons in that post why I thought the joke was not a good idea. I did comment on making jokes about spiritual abuse in of my own posts where I was expressing my distress. I believe I have a right to express my distress, especially when it was not directed at anyone specifically. I think there may be one other time when I commented on making fun of our situations, but I can't seem to find it in the posts. I will keep looking for it and comment on it when I do finally find it.
Why you get upset at people here and twist there words and whip them back at them? As they were the bad ones. Please tell me where you think I twisted someone's words. I would like to know what you think because I certainly don't want to twist anyone's words.
Why you seem not to have commpasion for Ninas. When have I ever said anything negative about Nina? Please tell me where I said something negative or uncompassionate about Ninas.
Most of all who hurt you so much that we trigger you. If you tell us your triggers we will try to be carefull not to do it. I do not want to share my triggers with anyone. There is technique in abusive groups called positive confession in which people are supposed to confess their inner feelings and sins to everyone. Then, that information is used later by the abusers to humiliate them. That abuse occured in the group I was in. Also, I shared my feelings and thoughts here in this forum, and for that I am being attacked by several people. So, I will never share my feelings or thoughts again here. I have not been triggered here - with a bad effect - here on this forum. So, not to worry! :)
That is what is on my mind today. Thank you for sharing your mind with me.
Janice
05-20-2006, 02:09 AM
Also, I shared my feelings and thoughts here in this forum, and for that I am being attacked by several people. So, I will never share my feelings or thoughts again here.
Thank God! Now can we "put a period" to all of this nonsence and move on?
I, for one, am tired of it.
Illuminated
05-20-2006, 08:43 AM
Also, I shared my feelings and thoughts here in this forum, and for that I am being attacked by several people. So, I will never share my feelings or thoughts again here. Thank God! Now can we "put a period" to all of this nonsence and move on? I, for one, am tired of it.I am really tired of it also. However, I am going to continue to tell the truth and to ask questions about certain people's responses to me, as I have been asked questions, albeit accusatory questions, about my responses.
For instance, Janice. I am wondering why you responded the way you did to a post I made in the NACR forum? I have quoted it below.
Here is a post from a brand new user in the NACR forum:
Please let me know the title of the song by Lenny LeBlanc? The lyrics go something like: I'm crazy, no mistaken, my life's been overtaken, hopelessly, in love with you oooo! (Jesus). .... ...God Bless,
Joe
This was posted just after the original situation occured. This was my response to that post from a brand new user in the NACR forum.
I find this post fascinating. You have copied and pasted a portion of my post, created on April 15 into your post. Here are my words:
Did you ever hear that Christian song "I'm Crazy!" by Lenny LeBlanc? The lyrics go something like: I'm crazy, no mistaken, my life's been overtaken, hopelessly, in love with you oooo! (Jesus). ....
Now, some questions for you.
1. Why would you register in a Christian Recovery Forum and immediately go to the General Recovery forum and post a question about lyrics to a Christian song?
2. Why would you copy text out of one of my previous posts and use it to ask a question when the answer to the question is already in the post?
3. And, on top of that, why are you using an email address for your user name?
Verrrrrrry interesting! Does anyone else have ideas on why this might be taking place? It is really curious to me.
Hmmm..... and the plot thickens.....;) Who are you, "Joe and I in You"????
Your response was:
Verrrrrrry interesting! Does anyone else have ideas on why this might be taking place? It is really curious to me.
Personally, I couldn't care less.
I am wondering why you felt it necessary to respond with such a statement? In my post I was trying to figure out why someone would sign up and then immediately quote me. To me it sounded like harassment, and frankly, I was rather frightened. .
If you didn't know anything, why did you feel the need to respond in a way that came across as sarcastic?:(
Janice
05-20-2006, 11:25 AM
you can "wonder" all you want.
I don't owe you or anyone else an explanation as to why I say what I say & do what I do.
And you don't either.
Enough said..back on ignore you go.
SpinningHead
05-20-2006, 12:03 PM
Before anyone else posts on this thread!!!!!
Please, please, please read "everyone relax...ok?"
I am trying to prevent an all out "Forum snip-war"...and I'm hoping there are others here that want the same goal.
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