Update on our kitchen problem...

[jane]

first for those of you who don't know....the pastor of our last church said he was a carpenter- took our money for labor and parts and disappeared without the job being done...and moved to California where we could not find the address..... so we were left without money AND with open undone cabinets....a total mess.



OK SO on Friday, I was emailing a friend and when I typed in her address- the address choices came up and it was an email address for that church administrator that I thought I had lost.............

So I wrote her.

and she just called me.


Apparently there have been some complaints filed with the better business bureau against that pastor.....he hired her long time family friend and NEVER paid him!

she left the church last May in a split....and in July that pastor sold his house and relocated to California and is doing this kind of work there.


So, here is the good news;

I have his current address, insurance policy numbers, tax ID, license....AND the numbers of the complaint filed from the man who he never paid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


here is the bad news,

I am suddenly terrified. He told her that he got an irate phone call from me.........which he did after 6 months of me calling him and him not returning his calls......to which he told her that I was emotionally unstable and irate so he was not going to respond to me.

He also said that our house was atroucious...and things like that.

so now I feel fear creeping up even though she said that he said those things to justify to himself why he robbed us and left.....

I mean the house was atroucious because we emptied our kitchen into our living room for him to do the work that he never did AND WE BOUGHT A FIXER UPPER>

my goodness!!!!!!!!!

why the fear? the unworthiness....

well, let me get off the net and contact these agencies--- please all pray for me. I really believe that this particular man is dangerous. I could see him calling the child welfare on us for living in a fixerupper as revenge- or something in retaliation. Maybe my fears are unfounded....but truthfully, I have got to fight to keep HANNAH'S HAVEN.

love,
jane

[butterfly]

:) [[[[Jane]]]]
This information didn"t get into your hands for nothing.
You were seeking it and you found it with other information you needed.:)
You will have Hannas Haven:) :) These girls need you as much as you need to help them.
You have water,plumbing, heat and food. Your children are taken care of. I do understand why you do fear this from him.
I am praying.:D :D butterfly Shirley

[SpinningHead]

You're in a position to do a lot of people a service by stopping this creep from continuing steeling people's cash! If you have a lawyer involved, I'd look into including a slander suit!

Be brave dear one!!

[mary]

(((((Jane))))))

Praying for you!!!

The Lord will take special care of you - you can count on that. "No weapon that is formed against you shall prosper..."

In His love,

mary

[jordie]

Go Jane,

Go Ja-ane, Go Ja-ane, Go Ja-ane.....(does that weird dance with hands out in front like cake mixer......................................I hope you know what I am talking about :D )

I read somewhere that our first instinct in situations like this is to stop and refuse like a horse jumping a fence. (The rider has to keep urging the horse on over the fence because he would rather go around it)....

Sometimes it takes an extra kick to get us over the hurdle but its always so much of a relief when we've done it, and we can congratulate ourselves that we did something really hard.......

You can do it..

Boots But.....in the nicest possible way....:D

[Joseph]

Hi Jane,

I know alot of contractors, both good and bad, and the personality of the bad ones are pretty consistent, they are never wrong, it's always someone elses fault. What he is trying to do to you is intimidate you by making you believe that this problem is your fault somehow. I'ts a primitive strategy and you just need to keep reminding yourself of the facts in the case and get the ball rolling in the direction that you want it to go. Don't treat him like an ex-pastor, he's a contractor that screwed you, he's using the pastor routine to try to gain an edge of wisdom and sympathy but the truth is that this was a business deal gone bad, nothing to do with God at all. He is no different than some of the jerks I know, just stick to the facts and you'll be fine. The facts of the case is all the lawyers and the court will be interested in, he will expose himself as a fraud all by himself. Have a lawyer give him a letter stating your intentions and let him do all of his communications through your lawyer, don't have direct contact with him, he will have no choice but to respond.
Sue him for damages just like you would anyone else, he's already running away from his problems by moving to California, it's very unlikely that he will ever confront you in any way because he's wrong and he knows it, the most he will do is complain to people around him (the ones that will still listen) about what an irrational person you are, who cares? You'll be the irrational person with the new kitchen and a smile back on your face.
Good luck,
Joe

[mary]

Of course, Jane, you have all kinds of legal remedies at your fingertips. All 50 state legislatures have provided generously for citizens wronged by lousy, lying construction contractors, itinerant "repairmen," thieves, brigands, perverts, stalkers, slanderers, libelers, etc., etc. and you can certainly avail yourself of any/all of those remedies. More power to you in that sphere of endeavor!

As for myself, I keep a can of pepper spray in my purse at all times and I have it in hand and ready to fly at certain times, especially when I'm in "pastor's" neighborhood. If I ever see him, he's going to get a blast in the face. (He is, after all, a body-builder who more than once told me he was going to "take me down," whatever he meant by that. I don't want to take any chances.)

It's a sad, sad state of affairs when any "church" and any "pastor" has reached this point. As I said before, I think abuse is now the norm and "Christian love" in churches is the exception. I have to put "Christian love" in quotes because the last time I experienced anything of that in a church was maybe 10, 12 years ago.

mary