Keep Us In Your Prayers....

[truth]

Tomorrow my husband will meet with a district official from our former church's denomination.

Interestingly, the gentleman he will meet with, we both knew many years ago in business before he left the industry to go into ministry. He has always appeared to be a kind, gentle loving sort of man --- but knowing what I know now, "appearances" mean nothing, it takes one triggering word and you can actually see these people's gentle, kind loving facades vanish and you are looking straight into the heart of evil, itself!

The "straw" that broke the camel's back, so to speak, was when it got back to us how the pastor was talking about us to another couple in the church, when they were leaving and finally, several misconducts by the pastor in a business deal that interestingly indirectly involved my husband. (no coincidence, the man is just being exposed)

We prayed about it all and the next day my husband said he had enough and he was going to call the district man and discuss all of this with him.

Again, we don't know what to expect in the way of reaction from this man - I've learned the hard way that the people I expected to understand me didn't --- and the people I would never have expected to undrestand --- did! It's always a "crapshoot" and you never know how it's going to turn out.

Anyway, keep us in your prayers, will you? All I knowfor sure is -that it's right to go - it's right to speak out and it's right to tell the truth.

truth

[mstar]

Will be in prayer for sure, Truth. Let us know how it goes. Love You.


Tomorrow my husband will meet with a district official from our former church's denomination.

Interestingly, the gentleman he will meet with, we both knew many years ago in business before he left the industry to go into ministry. He has always appeared to be a kind, gentle loving sort of man --- but knowing what I know now, "appearances" mean nothing, it takes one triggering word and you can actually see these people's gentle, kind loving facades vanish and you are looking straight into the heart of evil, itself!

The "straw" that broke the camel's back, so to speak, was when it got back to us how the pastor was talking about us to another couple in the church, when they were leaving and finally, several misconducts by the pastor in a business deal that interestingly indirectly involved my husband. (no coincidence, the man is just being exposed)

We prayed about it all and the next day my husband said he had enough and he was going to call the district man and discuss all of this with him.

Again, we don't know what to expect in the way of reaction from this man - I've learned the hard way that the people I expected to understand me didn't --- and the people I would never have expected to undrestand --- did! It's always a "crapshoot" and you never know how it's going to turn out.

Anyway, keep us in your prayers, will you? All I knowfor sure is -that it's right to go - it's right to speak out and it's right to tell the truth.

truth

[Jerry]

Dear Truth,,,
I sure will pray for you and hubby,,,,,What the Hell is going on when you can't trust anyone ??????? :eek: I can't help but feel the excrament is gonna hit the fan pretty soon :D We'll hold each other up ,,,,,,,deal??????? :D
Love Jerry

[truth]

deal, Jer, thanks, Mstar - love you , too....

I agree, Jerry, what is happening when you can't trust anyone?

I"m older, wiser and now when I approach these new situations I am no longer like a happy puppy running up to whoever has a doggie biscuit wagging my tail and jumping into their arms --- I hesitate, I wait -- they need to prove themselves to me -- this seems like better wisdom but learned at a price!

I growl a little and circle and size 'em up a little.......before committing!:D
truth

oh yea, and the ones that hit me on the nose with the newspaper - I'll just lift my leg on!

[SpinningHead]

I'm curious as to how this turns out so keep us posted.

Hubby and I thought a lot about taking our beef to the district but in the end, we know our info would split our church. Hubby just couldn't handle being part of a church split and him being a new christian, I wouldn't put that on him either. I'm so proud of you sticking up for yourself and letting people know that this is going on.

You're very brave. Remember to breath, stick to the facts and you don't need this man's validation to know what you experienced. What he does w/ the info is up to him but you are letting people know what was/is being done to you. You are telling the truth as you experienced it.

Good luck!!!!!

[jane]

Truth-

I am excited about your opportunity.

I am also wondering if you can get that couple to write down their feelings so you can have a written letter from another person.

We experienced talking to our pastor about others who concurred with us; funny when asked by him they forget our conversations...:mad:

it happened more than once, they were afraid of his rejection OR they were afraid of ours and spoke untruths to us??? Unsure.

anyway, just a thought.

jane

[truth]

Truth-

I am excited about your opportunity.

I am also wondering if you can get that couple to write down their feelings so you can have a written letter from another person.

We experienced talking to our pastor about others who concurred with us; funny when asked by him they forget our conversations...:mad:

it happened more than once, they were afraid of his rejection OR they were afraid of ours and spoke untruths to us??? Unsure.

anyway, just a thought.

jane

Interesting you mentioned this, although we never thought of it, you may be on to something here.... I was just thinking how we keep referring back to them (even in my post) because, like us, they are one of the few who have actually gotten up and "left" not merely complained and talked about it.

After my husband's meeting today we will know more or if there is anything to even further discuss with the situation.....but thank you for suggesting this - we may need to contact them if the matter goes further ---- I'm just so used to having to go it alone I guess I can't even fathom that anyone else would stand alongside us against all of this. Will keep you informed of how it all turns out!
thanks again....

truth

[mstar]

After my husband's meeting today we will know more or if there is anything to even further discuss with the situation.....but thank you for suggesting this - we may need to contact them if the matter goes further ---- I'm just so used to having to go it alone I guess I can't even fathom that anyone else would stand alongside us against all of this. Will keep you informed of how it all turns out!
thanks again....

truth

you got guts. Glad you are not alone. Keep us up to speed when able. .. .Love You.

[truth]

Thank you all for your support.

My husband had his meeting and it went really well.

He was totally affirmed by the gentleman he had the meeting with and I feel planted important seeds....I'm not sure the man has jurisdiction over our former church because I believe although they still have some ties with the district and the denomination, they had broken away too...so I'm not completely sure of the status there....

Anyway, he felt completely "heard and received" in his remarks, there was no resistance or condemnation -- only complete affirmation.

My husband even received some much needed counsel and support on some personal issues of his own, so all and all the meeting went just wonderfully in all respects -- and I know your many kind words and prayers were a part of his success!

Thank you so much - we appreciate you guys!

Love,

truth

[Jerry]

Be Vigalant,,,,don't let your guard down ;) that said,,,,,,I am glad it is going well
Love Jerry

[jane]

well,
I still hope that they DO something before other people are harmed...not being exactly in the same group anymore doesnt excuse their responsibility to speak truth into another pastor's life!


let us know if they DO something.....and more importantly, HOW you guys fare through it...

love,
jane

[truth]

Be Vigalant,,,,don't let your guard down ;) that said,,,,,,I am glad it is going well
Love Jerry

If you only knew! I so agree, I am no longer a spiritual virgin - can never go back...truth
thanks for the reminder, Jerry - you're right

[jane]

I am no longer a spiritual virgin



NOW THAT IS THE QUOTE OF THE YEAR>>>>>DO WE HAVE A SA AWARD TO GIVE THIS WINNER!!!

I am going to hang that up in my front entrance!

Love,
jane

[truth]

;) and there are many more from where that came from!

[mstar]

glad for the good news . ..will continue to keep you and your hubby in prayer. It is sad when you can't go back. . .a lost of innocence, but reality is reality. Frankly, a happy dream land would be nice, but I left the hippy movement and gave up Christian TV a long time ago.

Love you.