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Reg
01-10-2006, 07:36 AM
I read this in The Word for Today .

" Sign outside a convent: Absolutely No Trespassing! Violators Will Be Prosecuted to the Fullest Extent of the Law. Signed - The Sisters of Mercy. ;)

agapeluv
01-10-2006, 08:29 AM
HUM, I can not help but wonder if these SISTERS OF MERCY happened to belong to our FORMER church at one time. lol.

Enochwar
01-10-2006, 08:56 AM
I read this in The Word for Today .

" Sign outside a convent: Absolutely No Trespassing! Violators Will Be Prosecuted to the Fullest Extent of the Law. Signed - The Sisters of Mercy. ;)



ROFL........Mercy me!...............:D

Willow
01-10-2006, 09:11 AM
.... and all survivors will be shot!

agapeluv
01-10-2006, 10:06 AM
you mean ALL SURVIVORS WILL BE SHOT, IF THERE ARE ANY SURVIVORS !!!!! ROFL

mary
01-10-2006, 02:45 PM
Having been raised and educated in the Catholic Church for 16 years, I am not at all surprised by this "Sisters of Mercy" sign... In Catholic school, all of us were subjected to physical and verbal abuse. The verbal abuse was worse than the physical. Several years ago, I saw an ad on TV for one of those mystery shows in which a nun had been murdered. A main character looked startled and said, "WHY would anyone want to kill a nun?" My immediate question back was, "WHY not?!" Almost to a "woman," every nun I encountered was a mean, vicious harridan who couldn't keep a civil tongue in her head. The Jesuits I encountered in college were just as bad. Nasty, nasty people...

So I leave the Catholic Church. I get born again - oh, happy day, truly!!!! :D :D The Lord puts me in an evangelical, reformed congregation, where I was fine for a few years - but it was way too big. Too cliquey. Eventually, we find our way to this "cult" that's worse than anything I ever saw in the RCC. Much worse. :mad: Anyway, I digress.

Nuns stink. They're "of the world," and I get the joke about the Sisters of Mercy, of course, but all jokes are funny because there's something of truth in them. And yes, most nuns are - or were, in my experience - jack-booted, female thugs. They didn't used to wear those 15-decade rosaries at their belts for nothing. Now I think the beads on those things were probably solid lead... :) :) :)

mary

agapeluv
01-10-2006, 03:20 PM
Mary, I have heard that a lot of nuns were like that. Reading it first hand in your post makes me tremble. THAT IS HORRIBLE. I do not understand how anyone no matter what the religion can act this way and think they are doing service for the Lord. It just does not make sense. It seems so many THINK if they are in the Lords' service that they are above others and don't care about the feeling of others. That certainly is NOT the God that I know. It is sad all the abuse that people go through just trying to love and serve the Lord. Thanks for sharing that and sorry you had to go through such a horrible thing. CYBER HUGS

mary
01-10-2006, 04:23 PM
Awww, thanks, Agapeluv... I appreciate that! These nuns didn't and don't know the Lord, of course, and so all you can say is "Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do..." All they know is their religious "system" and it's definitely not "of God." I only praise Him and thank Him now that, well, He scooped up this ex-Catholic about 11 years ago about this time of year and gave her eternal life! WOW!!!! :D :) :D And He also seized me and brought me out of a stinking, rotten "Protestant" cult, even though I'm still hurting a whole lot over that... Even though I can't see it in the emotional sense, on paper, I couldn't be more blessed now - and I still just pray and wish the Lord would bring my whole (birth) family and most of my friends out of the RCC, too.

Yours in the love of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ,

mary

jane
01-10-2006, 05:13 PM
Reg-

you had me laughing....

and my husband agrees with Mary--- having been raised in the polish catholic school.


jane

agapeluv
01-10-2006, 06:10 PM
Mary-----What else can a person say besides Father forgive them for they know not what they do. How sad to be that blinded though. It sure does make a person realize the love of the SAviour when He endurded the cross for the sins of mankind saying Father forgive them for they know not what they do. I am so glad you know the Saviour. His grace is amazing !!!

Jane---I am sure your husband has quite a few stories also. <<<<smiles>>>>==

Satscout
01-10-2006, 08:49 PM
My only nun story is several decades old... and all the principal characters have already passed... so I guess it's safe to tell. :D

My mother's sister married my Uncle Sammy, who used to tell the story of growing up in the Catholic school... he would get in trouble all the time, and the nuns would send him "down cellar", where he would proceed to eat them out of house and home. After several rounds of this, they approached his mother, who very wisely told them that if they would stop "punishing" him by isolation with food, he would very quickly clean up his act. It only took one time of NOT getting sent "down cellar" before he stopped acting up. :rolleyes: :p

My mother told us this story growing up... but my uncle had this little mischievous gleam in his eye whenever he told it. It was priceless. He passed away a few years ago, after a few years of Alzheimer's. I'm glad we got to hear that story again before it wasn't possible.

Enochwar
01-10-2006, 09:02 PM
Okay....I've been everything but Catholic...so all I know is what is heard and see in the movies..

I know "Sister Act" and "Bells of St. Mary" are exaggerations....but do ...did they ....how can I put this.....? :confused:

Were there any that actually helped the children? were they all really...?:o ...
well as Mary puts it....

"Nuns stink. They're "of the world," and I get the joke about the Sisters of Mercy, of course, but all jokes are funny because there's something of truth in them. And yes, most nuns are - or were, in my experience - jack-booted, female thugs. "

It's scary to think about........{{{{*shivers*}}}}

Poor kids! .....And parenst still send their children even though they know this? or do they know what is happening?

Carmen
01-11-2006, 03:00 AM
You can't put all nuns in basket, like you can't put all protestant pastors in a basket.

I went to Catholic schools from grades 1 - 12. The education was very good, better than the one my neigbors had - though it still didn't measure up to European standards as I learned later when I went to Germany. I only had one nun as a teacher sometimes, only in one grade, and a priest as teacher for religion, the rest were not nuns or religiously bound. It was the other students that made my life nearly intolerable.

The few nuns I have met were usually stern, but not mean. I even delivered my kids in a Catholic hospital that employed nuns and non-religious as nurses, the overall care was better and from the heart - I had checked out other hospitals and heard accounts of them. Counselling was available to avoid post-partum depression (or any depression), - I did make use of that. The eucharist was also available for those that wanted it - it was comforting for many Catholics to have that possibility. The hospital also contained a small chapel for patients and visitors, you could have the mass that was conducted there every day piped to your room through the TV set if you wanted to - not my thing but it was comforting for others and may have helped them heal faster.

Even though I do speak out against Catholic doctrine, there is a lot to be said for their charitable works and one sees that even though the full gospel isn't preached there, that the bits of it that do come out are not completely without effect. Some people, including religious, genuinely try to be more compassionate and helpful. I don't see all Catholics as non-Christians, there are a few born-agains scattered here and there that have gone back (or even stayed) to try and do what they can from the inside. I only do this because Hubby is still Catholic and not born-again, and because I'm surrounded by Catholics - and by hostile or doctrinally poor prostestant groups - I hardly have another choice. I am not ecumenist, but am learning to live with what I have to, not liking the doctrine, but acknowledging good things where I see them. I wouldn't have been able to do this a year and a half ago, was stuck in conservative Calvinism or at least on the way to get stuck in it until I hit the brick wall of Calvinist SA. I see this kind of acknowledgment as progress, but not compromise.

We will be sending my children to a Catholic middle school at the next town, as the public one here is not very good (Don't need to pay tuition, is still part of Hubby's work contract). Elementary public school is excellent in this town (though not for the handicapped) as are the local high schools a few towns away, but quality can vary somewhat, especially in middle schools for some reason. My daughter will be that far along next year. They have a resident psych. that is specialized in dyslexia, perfect for her needs. If I had known that earlier I would have sent her to elementary school there. Have seen the curriculum and it is excellent. Optional classes for more English and even Latin are available, or free tutoring which she will probably need. There are no nuns or priests that teach there, except for religion class. I can counter anything strange that comes up there (usually just the Mary stuff). Despite some tightening of religious controls in the last year or two at the local parish, I think that we can ride out anything in the few years that the children will attend the middle school. After that they will return to public school.

The setting is familiar to me at least although I am born-again and no longer approve of Catholic doctrine, the schools I went to were not overexaggeratedly stern or strict though we did have to wear uniforms. I don't see the Catholic school environment as hostile, the school where my daughter will attend is attached to a more prosperous parish than the one I attended as a child, and the set-up of things is very similar, I can approve of it. The only obstacle I see is the other students, but you have that wherever you go. I don't trust priests (an uncle became gay due to one - another story not in a school setting), but will be keeping a close eye on my kids. Hubby still likes attending the Catholic church so I can still keep an eye on any major changes from the home parish that could make me decide to stop sending the kids to such a school. Such changes can come, even though the church has not changed much recently (I am only familiar with post Vatican II), have heard of purpose-driven Catholics - it may only be a rumor, and the ones I heard about are supposed to be in the US - far from Rome. Right now I'm counting on Rome not to change anything major for the moment, especially not in Italy. I can cope with what is already out there, if it will stay like it is for a little while longer.

Carmen

jane
01-11-2006, 08:31 AM
I agree you can't put everybody in a box.

My husband does have stories....what he said last night was simply, "they were stern, strict and cold...not warm and loving."

and yet my mother in law prefers to be in a living facility that is catholic. For her, she loves being aound the nuns and priests, has daily service right inside her facility and loves having communiion. There are residents who are "retired" do they retire? priests and nuns. One priest has alzimers but worked for years with Pope John Paul...so when he has clear days, she loves talking to him about his experiences...

Then there are those nuns in south africa who are rescuing baby's dying of aids.


jane

agapeluv
01-11-2006, 08:55 AM
I got to thinking about Mother Teresa. I don't know if in the catholic religion if a mother is the same thing as a Nun, but there certainly was not a more giving caring person than her. She was a role model that any Christian could look up to.

Hope 98
01-11-2006, 09:41 AM
I got to thinking about Mother Teresa. I don't know if in the catholic religion if a mother is the same thing as a Nun, but there certainly was not a more giving caring person than her. She was a role model that any Christian could look up to.

I'm not the most knowledgeable on this forum when it comes to catholic heirarchy, but I believe that "Mother" designates a higher position than a nun. Being a step up the ladder, one would have to be a nun first and promoted to the position of "mother" and still be a nun. IF that makes any sense at all.

As for Mother Theresa, I think she is someone that every human can look up to. She was a model of charity that I believe pleased Jesus immensely. But that's just me.

:D :D ;)

Carmen
01-11-2006, 09:41 AM
She was a nun too, just with more authority in the order, as a bishop is over a priest.

A small note, Opus Dei schools are also Catholic but may serve as recruitment centers for the group. They definitely have cult-like tendencies, I'd steer clear of those. Problem is they are not clearly marked. I know the one my kids will go to is not one of those, but have heard of one in Milano. They tend to target the rich, influential and impeccably healthy so we are out of their danger zone anyway.

mary
01-11-2006, 06:14 PM
Yes, "mother" or "Mother Superior," as she was known among the "Sisters, ******" who were my tormentors, was the head of a convent or supervised a group of nuns, wherever they were serving.

On my seventh birthday, in my first-grade classroom, the nun (Sister *******) changed our seats and I was put in the back of the room. Up until then, I'd been sitting up front. I couldn't see anything on the blackboard back there (I was the shortest kid in the class by at least a head) and I started to cry quietly. This lovely nun called me up to the front of the room and then said, "You will follow me." She proceeded to march me down the hall and opened the janitor's closet, where all the mops and brooms were kept and the stuff that they used to put on "it" when someone would throw up. She told me to step into the closet. Then she turned off the light and locked the door.

After what seemed like an eternity in there, a couple of hours at least, she finally came back, opened the door and said, "Is today your birthday or is it tomorrow?" I said, "It's today, Sister." Sr. ******* said, "Well, go back in the classroom. I'm writing your mother a note." She wrote my mother an absolutely scathing note about my "misbehavior" in the classroom. I was spanked, beaten and grounded at home.

Later, it was discovered that the reason that I "couldn't see" in the back of the classroom and had gotten so upset about it was that I was severely near-sighted. "Sister" had thought that I wanted to be up front because of my size and she considered that a manifestation of "pride." No, I really couldn't see from the back of the room! Was there ever an apology??? Can pigs fly?

For every story like this, there were about 40 more similar ones that I could relate about things that happened to me in Catholic schools. On the other hand, my son had a pretty decent time in them, but times had changed by the time he went to other Catholic schools, and I knew it, otherwise I wouldn't have let him attend them.

BTW, Mother Teresa taught and was often quoted as saying that of course, a good Buddhist goes to heaven! Why wouldn't he? Who needs Jesus Christ? He wasn't that exclusionary, was He?

Until I finally got the guts to leave, I used to sit at Mass and just sob. Didn't know what was wrong. Finally went to a wonderful service at an evangelical Protestant church and - ta da! - knew what was wrong! Got saved a couple of years later - praise the Lord!

The Catholic Church is something to leave, to put in your rearview mirror - but only if and as the Lord Himself so leads you to do it. But then, so are these miserable "churches" discussed on this board.

Despite what happened to me in the RCC, I will still rate what most recently befell me in a Protestant "church," which I've described ad infinitum on this board, as the worst church experience I've ever had.

mary

Enochwar
01-12-2006, 02:25 PM
(((((((((((Mary))))))))))))

Dumb Teacher/Nun!.........:mad:

Reminds me of a teacher I had in public school.....:mad: :mad: :mad:

Everything was cool until 5th grade and I pulled the teacher from ****!:mad:

I cried everyday on my walk to school that year...........this woman would make fun of me in front of the whole class.........so of course that gave everyone else permission to use me as a scape goat......if they did anything wrong they would just accuse me........

I was too ashamed to tell my mom...(did you tell your mother about what happened?)........I thought it was my fault....but mom knew something was wrong......

mom made the mistake of asking my cousin to talk to the teacher about what was wrong.....of course the teacher painted me as being disruptive and unco-operative.....evil ****h!....Oooo where did that come from?

Anyway I feel ya honey about evil, dumb, teachers.........makes one wonder how in the world so many fools get into leadership positions.........they need to deal with machines or computers or something..........NOT people..........:mad: :p :mad:

Enochwar, out.

mary
01-12-2006, 03:21 PM
Thanks, ((((((((Enochwar))))))))!!! What happened to you was also despicable. No one should ever have to endure being a scapegoat of any kind. To think that this was sanctioned by the adult who was ostensibly supposed to protect you - that's just unconscionable. :mad:

Well, to answer your question, at the time of this incident, my mom was about 6 months pregnant with my sister. There were three boys in between me and my sister, so she was looking at having her 5th kid in 7 years. Not the easiest row to hoe, and she was definitely not a happy camper in those days. She did blame me entirely in this incident and I was duly punished... But she and I never talked about it again. Whatever. It's okay and, as some say in the military, I've "sucked it up."

You are absolutely right: too many people who should never, ever even be considered for leadership positions wind up smack dab in them. It's a crying shame. :o

That's why we need to do what we can to run these "pastors" out of the pulpits that they've defiled by their very presence... God will do these things and help us in our efforts, in His will! I'm very cheered by that thought... :)

mary

agapeluv
01-13-2006, 04:00 PM
Nary, that is absolutely horrible what happened to you. It reminds me of my grandma( she was a very strict mormon) I hated it when mom and dad were not there and I had to go to GRANDMAS house. She would put me out in the dark garage and I was sooooooooo scared, just a little tyke. funny thing was when I would go to anybody elses house besides grandmas, they would say they could not have a better kid. I WAS VERY BASHFUL. I would think, ok, this time I am going to be REALLY GOOD at grandmas. It did not seem to matter, I was always put in the garage in the corner and would sit and cry quietly. I HATED GOING TO GRANDMAS HOUSE !!!!

Your story about not being able to see the chalkboard reminded me of 6th grade. I had glasses but had the worst eyes in the class with my glasses on because I needed new glasses. They did not fit my face even. The teacher had my desk all the way to the chalkboard, but I still could not see. I would tell my dad I could not see, the teacher would talk to him and yet he would not get me new glasses. I did not like bugging my dad to buy anything as I knew he did not make a lot of money, but I did bug him about this one. FINALLY I thought I had a great idea. LOL. It ended up being one of my NOT SO GREAT IDEAS AFTERALL. LOL. I broke the glasses right in half, scratched my nose all up with my fingernails. OUCHY and told my dad I was running down the sidewalk and fell breaking my glasses. My dad took some really heavy wire, hooked the glasses at one side, up over the top and down the other side. I went to school for weeks like that before he finally got me new glasses.

mary
01-13-2006, 05:56 PM
Oh, ((((((Agapeluv))))) - that's horrible!!!! My goodness!!! What an awful memory to carry around with you! You're in my prayers...

You know, it's looking a little apparent to me that those of us who were abused in some way as children are maybe a wee bit overrepresented on this board. Maybe to the tune of, oh, say 50.1%???? :) :D :) I know in my case, the PiP was the same height as my father (as I've posted before), had similar facial features at the same age and although the PiP's European accent was different than my father's Midwest one, they even had vocal inflections that were similar. I was trying to work everything out and "put it right" by hanging in for way too long at that "church." Silly me. :o The PiP knew what my father had done to me - and proceeded to make it all even worse than it had been before. But the Lord's hand was in everything, ultimately, and I praise Him for all He's done for me! 2 Corinthians 4:16-18 - it rules...

mary

jjc9497
01-13-2006, 08:56 PM
Oh, ((((((Agapeluv))))) - that's horrible!!!! My goodness!!! What an awful memory to carry around with you! You're in my prayers...

You know, it's looking a little apparent to me that those of us who were abused in some way as children are maybe a wee bit overrepresented on this board. Maybe to the tune of, oh, say 50.1%???? :) :D :) I know in my case, the PiP was the same height as my father (as I've posted before), had similar facial features at the same age and although the PiP's European accent was different than my father's Midwest one, they even had vocal inflections that were similar. I was trying to work everything out and "put it right" by hanging in for way too long at that "church." Silly me. :o The PiP knew what my father had done to me - and proceeded to make it all even worse than it had been before. But the Lord's hand was in everything, ultimately, and I praise Him for all He's done for me! 2 Corinthians 4:16-18 - it rules...

mary


When I was at the age to be ready for marriage, I made a list of everything that was the exact opposite of my father. That's what I used to pick a husband (26 yrs in Feb). What I have recently realized is that I was very careful about the husband, but have chosen churches that had the same abusive dynamics as my family. I was smart enough to make sure I didn't get an abusive husband, but didn't even see that I was choosing the same abusive family relationships in my church.

mary
01-14-2006, 04:48 AM
jjc, I did the same thing... Found a husband who had the opposite traits of my father, and then - much later - found a church whose pastor (whom I recognized as "father lookalike, sound-alike," maybe subconsciously at first, but consciously when he started attacking me) was cut from the same bolt of rotten, putrid cloth as my father was. "Little Mr. Nobody," my mother used to call my father. "Little Rev. Nobody," I later found... Couldn't fix the relationship with my father, who was threatening to kill me right up until he had his final stroke not quite 3 years ago, and I sure couldn't fix the relationship with "Rev. Nobody," either.

His congregation, though, is getting smaller and smaller... :D

mary

agapeluv
01-14-2006, 06:29 AM
Mary( got the M that time, instead of the N.) sorry about the other post. I just noticed it this morning. lol

It seems to me that MOST people who have been abused either grown up to be ABUSERS themselves and then are as bad as the ones who abused them. I did not like being picked on, was picked on in school all the time, so WHY would I want to hurt someone else who was totally INNOCENT. that just does not make sense to me.

MARY, you have been through sooooooooo much, yet it is obvious by your posts what a kind and caring Christian person you are.

To both of you. I loved my Dad a lot, yet he did so many things that used to make me wonder about how he was brought up. He said he left the house when he was a teenager to get away from his dad. My grandfather died before I was born, but I do know he was VERY STERN. My Dad would say and do hurtful things and then tell us he was PERFECT, never did anything wrong in his life. ROFL over that one. That bothered me from the time I was little as I never heard my dad say he was sorry about anything. My dad went through an awful lot when he was a kid, BUT I was the same as both of you. I had NO desire to marry someone like my dad. Our daughter is not married. she says there is nobody out there like her dad and that is the type she would want to marry !!!

When I was in school I hated it when they would pick teams for sports as I was always one of the very last ones picked. IT WAS EMBARRASSING. Right after I joined our FORMER church they had a picnic at the school. I decided to go and came so close to leaving in tears. I was used to holding my feelings in and not saying anything from the time I was little and know that is one reason I stayed at that 'CHURCH' for so long. The ladies were sitting at the picnic table so I went and sat down. Here I was a new believer but NOT ONE of them even noticed I was there, SO I switched tables and went and sat down at a table where another church was sitting. ( one thing I noticed they were all clickish just like school, sitting in their own special places with their friends, not mixing and mingling like I thought Christians would be doing) anyway, it was same thing, nobody said a word, did not even look at me. I ate fast and went and stood by myself. One of the ladies from our FORMER church came over to talk to me and then her buddy showed up and asked her if she wanted to go for a walk with her, REMINDED ME AGAIN OF SCHOOL, neither of them asked if I would like to go. I thought, ok, I will go play baseball even if I am not good at it. They were lining up to play and when I went over I noticed they were PICKING TEAMS. I thought, NOPE COUNT ME OUT, started to leave and the FORMER PASTOR walked over to me. He said, aren't you going to play? I said, no. He said, I BET WHEN YOU WERE A KID AND IN SCHOOL WHEN THEY PICKED TEAMS YOU WERE THE LAST ONE PICKED !!!!!!!!!!!! I almost burst into tears right there, never did forget that remark as over the years people would tell me, YOU HAVE SUCH A SPECIAL RELATIONSHIP WITH THE PASTOR THE WAY HE "TEASES' YOU FROM THE PULPIT-------------YEAH RIGHT !!!!!!!!!! ROFL. over that one. I reached out to the visitors even before our losses because I knew what it was like to be left out. visitors used to tell the pastor all the time that one of the ladies really made them feel welcome and that is why they were coming back. It really made a difference when I started making the angel pins, YET the pastor would smart off about them and not even act like it was a ministry. THERE WAS A LOT HE JUST DID NOT GET !!!

Jerry
01-14-2006, 08:10 AM
It really made a difference when I started making the angel pins, YET the pastor would smart off about them and not even act like it was a ministry. THERE WAS A LOT HE JUST DID NOT GET !!!
If you start making them again,,,,will you send me one ???
Love Jerry

mary
01-14-2006, 11:17 AM
Agapeluv, you are such a dear yourself...

Your story of being left out when cruel people are choosing up teams reminded me of the scene in "The Hiding Place" when Corrie ten Boom and her sister, Betsy, are first in the concentration camp during WWII. (They were Gentiles; they'd been put in the camp because they were hiding Jews in their cubbyholes in their Dutch home.) Corrie and Betsy saw a female Nazi guard slap an inmate to the floor and Betsy immediately exclaimed, "Oh, that poor woman!" Corrie thought her sister must be referring to the woman who was slapped, but later, when they were talking about it, Betsy said, "No. I was referring to the guard. Think how far from the Lord she must be, to act like that!"

How blessed you are, Agapeluv, not to be one of the abusers, but rather one who reaches out in God's love and empathy to those who are the abused, when you've been a victim yourself!!!!

mary

agapeluv
01-15-2006, 10:30 AM
JERRY--- WE started going to the church we now attend 2 years ago this coming Easter. The first Mothers Day we were there I asked the pastor if it would be ok if I gave ALL the ladies a pin for Mothers Day. He was ecstatic. Shortly before we joined this church I asked the pastor if I could make angel pins for the visitors and he said he had been praying about that and praying too that we would do the AGAPE LOVE MINISTRY also. He was really excited about us joining and said he had been praying that the Lord would send someone to do that type of ministry !!!! It is good to feel appreciated by the Pastor. I have angel pins in a lot of different countries that I sent to missionaries. SOME OF THEM ARE JUST LIKE PASTORS. NEVER TOLD ME IF THEY WORKED IN THEIR MINISTRIES, EXCEPT ONE IN SCOTLAND. Two weeks after the Lord laid it on my heart to make the pins in our FORMER church, He laid it on my heart to make pins to send to our missionaries in Scotland. The missionary was excited when I emailed her and told her. I MADE 85 OF THESE TIME CONSUMING PINS IN ONE DAY TO SEND AND KNEW I HAD HELP FROM ABOVE. MY HUBBY COULD NOT BELIEVE IT WHEN HE CAME HOME AND MY CRAFT DESK WAS LOADED WITH PINS. I WAS WATCHING TWO KIDS THAT DAY AND THEY WERE JUST AROUND THE CORNER BEING QUIET AS A COUPLE OF MICE !!! I would get emails from the missionary telling me how she would pray for the Lord to tell her who to give the pins to as they had a daughter who was in the hospital a lot and she would take the pins to give to people in the hospital. THE TESTIMONIES WERE AWESOME !!!! BUT now I don't hear from her because she is a missionary of our FORMER church and I think her husband put the cabosh on that !!!!!! I have emailed her numerous times but don't hear back. I got a short email at Christmas, just saying hope your holiday is a good one.

Your story of being left out when cruel people are choosing up teams reminded me of the scene in "The Hiding Place" when Corrie ten Boom and her sister, Betsy, are first in the concentration camp during WWII. (They were Gentiles; they'd been put in the camp because they were hiding Jews in their cubbyholes in their Dutch home.) Corrie and Betsy saw a female Nazi guard slap an inmate to the floor and Betsy immediately exclaimed, "Oh, that poor woman!" Corrie thought her sister must be referring to the woman who was slapped, but later, when they were talking about it, Betsy said, "No. I was referring to the guard. Think how far from the Lord she must be, to act like that!"
How blessed you are, Agapeluv, not to be one of the abusers, but rather one who reaches out in God's love and empathy to those who are the abused, when you've been a victim yourself!!!!
mary--------------THANKS MARY. IT WAS HORRIBLE WHAT THE JEWS WENT THROUGH. IT BREAKS MY HEART HOW MEAN PEOPLE ARE TO OTHERS AND LOVE DOING IT !!!!!! I FEEL WHEN A PERSON WALKS IN THE CHURCH, NOBODY REALLY KNOWS WHAT IS GOING ON INSIDE OF THAT PERSON, SO WHY MAYBE ADD TO THEIR TRIAL THEY MIGHT BE GOING THROUGH. JUST BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN HURT A LOT IN THE PAST DOES NOT GIVE ME A RIGHT TO HURT SOMEONE ELSE. A LOT OF MY PROBLEM IS I SMILE ALL THE TIME. I USUALLY HAVE A SMILE EVEN WHEN I AM UPSET AND SOMETIMES THAT UPSETS ME----LOL. MY KIDS USED THAT ON ME ALL THE TIME !!!! THE PASTOR AT THIS CHURCH SAYS HE THINKS THEY MADE THE WALMART SMILEY FACE AFTER ME. PROBLEM IS WHEN YOU ARE LIKE THIS, SO MANY PEOPLE THINK YOU ARE HAPPY ALL THE TIME !!!! JUST BECAUSE I WEAR A SMILE ON THE OUTSIDE, DOES NOT MEAN THERE ARE MANY TIMES I AM CRYING ON THE INSIDE. DOES THIS MAKE SENSE ???????????

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