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Carmen
12-21-2005, 05:24 AM
Just found a book called Stop Walking on Eggshells: Taking Your Life Back When Someone You Care About Has Borderline Personality DisorderBy Randi Kreger and Paul Mason at: http://www.bpdcentral.com/bks/swoe.shtml. Has anyone read it yet? The table of contents is on that page and it seems very interesting. It seems like some descriptions of pastors here fit the BPD scheme.

gwen
12-21-2005, 07:51 AM
I went to the website you listed...wow! It sounds like a description of my former "pastor". I've already decided that he's a psychopath after reading about psychopaths, but it sounds like he may be BPD as well. I wonder what the difference is between psychopath and BPD. Well, I'll have to add this book to my growing list of "books to read"!

Gwen

truth
12-21-2005, 09:50 AM
Just found a book called Stop Walking on Eggshells: Taking Your Life Back When Someone You Care About Has Borderline Personality DisorderBy Randi Kreger and Paul Mason at: http://www.bpdcentral.com/bks/swoe.shtml. Has anyone read it yet? The table of contents is on that page and it seems very interesting. It seems like some descriptions of pastors here fit the BPD scheme.


On another post I mentioned I had read a book about Borderline Personality Disorders this summer --- I can't believe you mentioned it here --- the one you mention is the one I read. It's excellent and practical and very descriptive of what this disorder is about--- if you want further research on it - they have many forums and websites connected with the book, I think.....and yes, I agree with you, after I read the book, unfortunately it aptly describes many people we have discussed here --- I felt that was the reason it had come my way - to help me more fully understood what I had dealt with and why it seemed so crazy! It makes alot of sense after you read it ---Thanks for bringing it up!

jane
12-21-2005, 10:05 AM
these disorders are co-morbid;

symptoms are similar and interchangeable. There are some striking differences though.

I remember thinking about sociopath because a sociopath is often very engaging and likeable....often they have a gift to make you feel like you are family or have known them for years within minutes of meeting them.


funny in our country we uphold the value of religious freedom and lately I was thinking about how it just gives a free place for psychopaths, sociopaths, child molesters, and every other sick person the right to abuse in the name of freedom.


great topic and you're right in my opinion....

jane

Pinkie Pie
12-21-2005, 10:15 AM
Egad. I browsed some of the articles on the website and BPD sounds like half my family, most of my former boyfriends, my former pastor and most of the church members at that church, ex-very close friends, and in some parts, me!

A lot of it brought back unpleasant memories of growing up. I suppose being exposed to that from childhood can rub off on a person. And make BPD seem normal (which may be why I have gravitated towards that kind of personality and "normal" personalities seem strange to me....)

I don't think I'm BPD but definitely have some of the same thought processes.

Thanks for sharing this website and book.

gwen
12-21-2005, 10:37 AM
funny in our country we uphold the value of religious freedom and lately I was thinking about how it just gives a free place for psychopaths, sociopaths, child molesters, and every other sick person the right to abuse in the name of freedom.


great topic and you're right in my opinion....

jane

Yeah...and I don't think that's what the founders of our country had in mind!

ex-shep
12-21-2005, 01:15 PM
I could be in denial for myself. It does describe former significant others, my wife, and the witchy poo at work, especially the witchy poo.

It is quite revealing.

Carmen
12-22-2005, 08:22 AM
Thanks for the responses everybody. If the book is that good I'll put it on my wish list. :) Am currently looking at the psychological profiles of those that could be attracted to pastoral positions and/or those that could misuse such positions. If people would only follow what Paul listed as good pastoral attributes, we'd have a lot fewer problems, sociopaths and the like would never make it that far.

truth
12-22-2005, 12:22 PM
Egad. I browsed some of the articles on the website and BPD sounds like half my family, most of my former boyfriends, my former pastor and most of the church members at that church, ex-very close friends, and in some parts, me!

A lot of it brought back unpleasant memories of growing up. I suppose being exposed to that from childhood can rub off on a person. And make BPD seem normal (which may be why I have gravitated towards that kind of personality and "normal" personalities seem strange to me....)

I don't think I'm BPD but definitely have some of the same thought processes.

Thanks for sharing this website and book.

That is exactly how I felt as I read the book -- I felt relief again knowing I wasn't crazy for the way I had reacted to all the people you mention (it gave me a name for their behavior) but alarm, in a way, because it sounded like Me somewhat, too!