Holy SHIT!

[Willow]

The president made a speech from the church I used to attend in Baker, LA. Whadda brain twister. I think they suck... but I"m probably the one that sucks. They're the ones responding to the need... not me. *sigh*

[jane]

oh willow,

i am sure that if the president chose this church than it does suck!

It is great that they are helping but that is not evidence of anything- and I thought you did respond with an offer of a room?

ok, look at reality for a minute, if the president is looking to make up for some PR damage- they'll look for a church with an "image". It has been my experience that the churches that have a good public image aren't the ones following Christ.

love you,

and hey, that event sounds like something that would have happened to me. If my old church wasn't in jolly old new england, they'd find a way to get on t.v.

jane- who feel like running with scissors today :(

[Willow]

((jane)) sorry you feel like running with scissors :(

Yes... I did offer a room. No response as of yet. It would be very like that church to offer the most massive help available in the whole community. The church really does a lot of good. Then again... God used Balaam's ass to talk to him. Go figure. It still freaked me out to see it on the national news.

[ex-shep]

The president made a speech from the church I used to attend in Baker, LA. Whadda brain twister. I think they suck... but I"m probably the one that sucks. They're the ones responding to the need... not me. *sigh*

That would be the mother of all pyschic occurances. Such situations can be extremely disarming. The one that created the most difficulty was trying to get past the grieving over loosing Tammy from her group. I was finally making some progress. This was in 1988 at the time.

The transit system in the city where I lived went out on strike for two weeks. The city where Tammy lives had an acrimonious transit strike which lasted for months and nearly put the system out of business. The local TV went up to "Metropolis" to cover how the system recovered from the work action. A cameraman was panning of passengers board a Metropolis Transit bus. Guess who was getting on the Elm Street Express. I ran out of the apartment screaming into the woods in back of the building. I was a wreck.

I did have a pyschic occurance last night. I was looking at church website for a new church home- another post. The newsletter had a pastor from a former church who ran a buzzsaw of bad publicity in the new members class. Needless to say, that church was, after a brief explanation to my wife, was unceremoniously scratched off the list.

Fun isn't it?

[Willow]

I dunno... I'm not having much fun. Between discovering the "Revival at the Ryman" was close friends with my former pastor... to seeing the old church in LA on TV.... to discovering similar ties of my boyfriend's church with the WOF movement. It's just a little more than I can handle most of the time.

[jane]

yeah, i don't find it fun anymore either. I don't think I ever did but it seems to me that the deeper pain keeps being revealed.

It is like when you find out santa claus isn't real, your whole world is confusing. That is how I feel right now, so confused that I am numb. I am looking up all kinds of mental disorders on line to see if I fit, I don't really fit in the PTSD catagory- but I feel disabled somehow by some weight that can't lift off of me.

I am not saying that I am depressed, I am just tired from the fight of climbing uphill against the tide all the time. The beatings of it can get you down.

jane

[ex-shep]

I dunno... I'm not having much fun. Between discovering the "Revival at the Ryman" was close friends with my former pastor... to seeing the old church in LA on TV.... to discovering similar ties of my boyfriend's church with the WOF movement. It's just a little more than I can handle most of the time.

Ok, latte on me, next time my wife and I get to Nashville. The good news is this to shall pass- even thought it does not feel like it right now. Hangeth in there, friend :)

[profnachos]

You used to live in Baker, Willow?

I've been meaning to blog about this. When I was driving to Vegas a few weeks back from LA, I was not paying attention to my gas tank until I passed the last exit of Baker.

Yeap, almost dried out. Got off on the next exit and drove to this beat up looking building. The guy sold me a gallon for $10.

The president made a speech from the church I used to attend in Baker, LA. Whadda brain twister. I think they suck... but I"m probably the one that sucks. They're the ones responding to the need... not me. *sigh*

[Willow]

$10.00/gal??!! That's worse than prices we're seeing now!

I lived in Baton Rouge and commuted to Baker for church. It's a huge honkin' charismatic church there. The more I think about it... the more I realize that the kind of disaster Katrina posed is the kind of help they would be most able to provide. Emotional support in physical adversity is something they are good at. It's when people within the structure of the organization start to think for themselves that there are problems. It's the times when an insider's life doesn't match up with the doctrine that people begin to be damaged. The physical need situation is a situation they shine in.

anyway... this is my thoughts after the initial shock wore off. ex-shep hit the nail on the head with his analogy of seeing the woman he knew on TV. It is an initial shock and something to be thought through.

Jane... I'm sad that you are struggling with what I call "the fog". I wish I had something to tell you that would make it go away. One good note... after awhile it doesn't feel so heavy.

so ex shep? When are ya'll coming to nashville????

[profnachos]

Oh I misunderstood. There is a town called Baker in California. And you probably thought I meant Luisiana when I said LA. I meant driving from Los Angeles to Las Vegas, I passed a town called Baker. Baker, California. :D

$10.00/gal??!! That's worse than prices we're seeing now!

I lived in Baton Rouge and commuted to Baker for church. It's a huge honkin' charismatic church there. The more I think about it... the more I realize that the kind of disaster Katrina posed is the kind of help they would be most able to provide. Emotional support in physical adversity is something they are good at. It's when people within the structure of the organization start to think for themselves that there are problems. It's the times when an insider's life doesn't match up with the doctrine that people begin to be damaged. The physical need situation is a situation they shine in.

anyway... this is my thoughts after the initial shock wore off. ex-shep hit the nail on the head with his analogy of seeing the woman he knew on TV. It is an initial shock and something to be thought through.

Jane... I'm sad that you are struggling with what I call "the fog". I wish I had something to tell you that would make it go away. One good note... after awhile it doesn't feel so heavy.

so ex shep? When are ya'll coming to nashville????

[ex-shep]

so ex shep? When are ya'll coming to nashville????[/QUOTE]

See what I can do.

[Willow]

oohhh ok prof... i did think you meant Louisiana when you said LA. LOL!

ex-shep... just let me know when. If your wife is with you, you all can stay at the hotel amy if it's not booked with hurricane survivors.

[Willow]

I'm supposed to talk on the phone with the counselor at my former boy friend's church. He emailed me and asked for my phone number. I gave it to him in hopes that it will be a positive thing. I'll keep ya'll updated. I can't go to their church. I freak out too much. Nice people, but extreme pressure to tithe and give and be holy, etc. etc. etc.